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Default Re: Scanning old negatives - 04-16-2007 , 10:37 PM







"tomm42" <tmonego (AT) wildblue (DOT) net> wrote

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On Apr 16, 11:43 am, Dave S <dabcdsch... (AT) mts (DOT) not> wrote:
Fred Martin wrote:
Stuart wrote:
I would like to gather opinions on the most appropriate film scanner
to purchase to archive a collection of my late father and
grandfathers b/w negatives, mainly 6" x 4". Some are glass plate the
most normal negs of street scenes and faces in the 1920's, 1930's and
1940's in Australia and New Zealand.

Would the Epson Perfection V700 Scanner be suitable? I looked at the
specs for the 750 and I doubt if I would need to go to a wet gate
scanner.

Something around the Epson price range - a bit higher would be okay.

Please reply to the group

or (remove the spaces)

n e t m a s k 56 at g o o g l e dot c o m

and the subject line Scanning old negatives

As an alternative to scanning, I would suggest you try what I did. I
have used a
light box and rephotographed many slides and also negatives of various
sizes
and have been very pleased with the results. I bought a Canon slide
scanner
originally to scan slides, but found that rephotographing them with my
digital
camera is just as good quality and much, much faster.

....Fred

I agree with the part about lightbox-rephotographing vs scanning slides.
Very significantly better!

However, when I tried this with negatives, I never got satisfactory
results on my attempts to neutralize the orange mask. Somehow the
hardware/software in the scanner can do this really quickly and
accurately, and a sequence of steps on PaintShopPro ended up with
mediocre results.

Dave S.


I have a Bessler slide duplicator with Schneider 80 f4 Componon slide
duping lens on it and the result don't have the dynamic range of my
Epson V700 when using a D200. They aren't bad, but not as good as a
scanner. A 58mb 16bit file is a little limiting if I want to print
large. I can get larger files with the scanner too, with 4x5s I scan
at 2400ppi and get a 500mb file in 16 bits. Nice if I want to make a
16x20 print. As for the orange mask, most transpaerency scanners take
care of it in the scanning program. I have used some older color negs
with a very deep orange base, and even those came out nicely requiring
only a little play with the color.

Tom

Many thanks to all for the valuable advice - I want to start the project
ASAP but I guess it will be about a month before I can start due to personal
reasons. Once I get going I will post my experiences. Have still to get a
good price in Sydney Australia for the V750.

I'm running XP SP2 with all updates, 1 gig of memory and virtually unlimited
HDD space.




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Default Re: Scanning old negatives - 04-17-2007 , 08:23 AM






On Apr 16, 10:37 pm, "Stuart" <stuart€@whodunnit8.com> wrote:
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"tomm42" <tmon... (AT) wildblue (DOT) net> wrote in message

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On Apr 16, 11:43 am, Dave S <dabcdsch... (AT) mts (DOT) not> wrote:
Fred Martin wrote:
Stuart wrote:
I would like to gather opinions on the most appropriate film scanner
to purchase to archive a collection of my late father and
grandfathers b/w negatives, mainly 6" x 4". Some are glass plate the
most normal negs of street scenes and faces in the 1920's, 1930's and
1940's in Australia and New Zealand.

Would the Epson Perfection V700 Scanner be suitable? I looked at the
specs for the 750 and I doubt if I would need to go to a wet gate
scanner.

Something around the Epson price range - a bit higher would be okay.

Please reply to the group

or (remove the spaces)

n e t m a s k 56 at g o o g l e dot c o m

and the subject line Scanning old negatives

As an alternative to scanning, I would suggest you try what I did. I
have used a
light box and rephotographed many slides and also negatives of various
sizes
and have been very pleased with the results. I bought a Canon slide
scanner
originally to scan slides, but found that rephotographing them with my
digital
camera is just as good quality and much, much faster.

....Fred

I agree with the part about lightbox-rephotographing vs scanning slides.
Very significantly better!

However, when I tried this with negatives, I never got satisfactory
results on my attempts to neutralize the orange mask. Somehow the
hardware/software in the scanner can do this really quickly and
accurately, and a sequence of steps on PaintShopPro ended up with
mediocre results.

Dave S.

I have a Bessler slide duplicator with Schneider 80 f4 Componon slide
duping lens on it and the result don't have the dynamic range of my
Epson V700 when using a D200. They aren't bad, but not as good as a
scanner. A 58mb 16bit file is a little limiting if I want to print
large. I can get larger files with the scanner too, with 4x5s I scan
at 2400ppi and get a 500mb file in 16 bits. Nice if I want to make a
16x20 print. As for the orange mask, most transpaerency scanners take
care of it in the scanning program. I have used some older color negs
with a very deep orange base, and even those came out nicely requiring
only a little play with the color.

Tom

Many thanks to all for the valuable advice - I want to start the project
ASAP but I guess it will be about a month before I can start due to personal
reasons. Once I get going I will post my experiences. Have still to get a
good price in Sydney Australia for the V750.

I'm running XP SP2 with all updates, 1 gig of memory and virtually unlimited
HDD space.

The V700 works well too, I believe you get a sightly better scanning
system and antiNewton glass with the V750. I questioned if the extra
$200 US was worth it. I got the V700 because my older flatbed bit the
dust (Epson Expression 1600) and the V750 wasn't out yet. The V700 has
been a great scanner, put away my older Nikon LS2000, cause the V700
was better.

Tom



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Barry Watzman
 
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Default Re: Scanning old negatives - 04-18-2007 , 08:32 AM



What is "antiNewton glass" ???


tomm42 wrote:

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The V700 works well too, I believe you get a sightly better scanning
system and antiNewton glass with the V750. I questioned if the extra
$200 US was worth it. I got the V700 because my older flatbed bit the
dust (Epson Expression 1600) and the V750 wasn't out yet. The V700 has
been a great scanner, put away my older Nikon LS2000, cause the V700
was better.

Tom


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CSM1
 
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Default Re: Scanning old negatives - 04-18-2007 , 10:15 AM



This what Newton's rings are:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Newton_ring

Newton's rings are created on a scanner when the film is in direct contact
with the scanners platen.
To prevent Newton's rings you elevate the film a short distance from the
glass or use "Anti-Newton Glass".

Anti-Newton glass prevents the creation of Newton's rings in your scan.

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http://www.carlmcmillan.com
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"Barry Watzman" <WatzmanNOSPAM (AT) neo (DOT) rr.com> wrote

Quote:
What is "antiNewton glass" ???


tomm42 wrote:



The V700 works well too, I believe you get a sightly better scanning
system and antiNewton glass with the V750. I questioned if the extra
$200 US was worth it. I got the V700 because my older flatbed bit the
dust (Epson Expression 1600) and the V750 wasn't out yet. The V700 has
been a great scanner, put away my older Nikon LS2000, cause the V700
was better.

Tom




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