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Default Scan negative or print - 02-17-2006 , 05:54 PM






My scanner can scan negatives or scans up to 2400, I have both the negatives
and the prints of many pictures. Storage space and time are not issues. Any
recommendations appreciated,



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Default Re: Scan negative or print - 02-17-2006 , 08:13 PM






KSB wrote:
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My scanner can scan negatives or scans up to 2400, I have both the
negatives and the prints of many pictures. Storage space and time are
not issues. Any recommendations appreciated,
Experiment. Some scanners don't do well with negatives some have
problems with certain types of paper. Use what works best for you with your
equipment.

I usually try to use the most original, which would be the negative.

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Default Re: Scan negative or print - 02-18-2006 , 12:32 AM



I nearly always prefer to scan from the negative -- as long as your
scanner can make high quality scans this way.

Scanning from the print is better if the negative has deteriorated (or
is scratched and dirty and you don't have digital ice -- if scanning
color negatives or slides).

Possible drawbacks to scanning from the print can be: dirty scanner
glass, difficulty in scanning satin or other textured papers, bad
prints (muddy or over burned shadows, blown highlights), cracks or
tears (these can be fixed) and, if the prints are very old, stains and
surface sheens.

Dan


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Default Re: Scan negative or print - 02-18-2006 , 01:02 AM



I nearly always prefer to scan from the negative -- as long as your
scanner can make high quality scans this way.

Scanning from the print is better if the negative has deteriorated (or
is scratched and dirty and you don't have digital ice -- if scanning
color negatives or slides).

Possible drawbacks to scanning from the print can be: dirty scanner
glass, difficulty in scanning satin or other textured papers, bad
prints (muddy or over burned shadows, blown highlights), cracks or
tears (these can be fixed) and, if the prints are very old, stains and
surface sheens.

Dan


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Default Re: Scan negative or print - 02-18-2006 , 11:55 AM



KSB wrote:
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My scanner can scan negatives or scans up to 2400, I have both the negatives
and the prints of many pictures. Storage space and time are not issues. Any
recommendations appreciated,


There is much more detail in a negative than in a typical
print. The scanner may be able to scan a print at up to
2400 ppi, but above 250 or 300 ppi (depending on the quality
of the print)it will not capture any more detail.


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Default Re: Scan negative or print - 02-18-2006 , 02:58 PM



In message <CusJf.1650$Xk3.1264 (AT) fe09 (DOT) lga>, KSB <nospam (AT) nospam (DOT) net>
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My scanner can scan negatives or scans up to 2400, I have both the negatives
and the prints of many pictures. Storage space and time are not issues. Any
recommendations appreciated,
What scanner is it? How good are the prints you have? What condition
are the negatives in?
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Default Re: Scan negative or print - 02-21-2006 , 03:31 AM



On Fri, 17 Feb 2006 17:54:48 -0500, "KSB" <nospam (AT) nospam (DOT) net> wrote:

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My scanner can scan negatives or scans up to 2400, I have both the negatives
and the prints of many pictures. Storage space and time are not issues. Any
recommendations appreciated,
You are a little short on information.

"Normally" the method is to scan the negatives if you have them as
they have more resolution and color depth than a print. I say,
normally as it depends on what you have for a scanner.

2400 dpi isn't a lot for scanning negatives. At that resolution it
sounds like it might be a flat bed and they are not noted for doing
well on negatives although the newer ones are getting better.

Typically I scan 35mm color negatives at 4000dpi and prints at 600 dpi
which is about twice the resolution they contain. Scanning prints at
much above 300 dpi usually uses more memory with no gain in quality.

Roger Halstead (K8RI & ARRL life member)
(N833R, S# CD-2 Worlds oldest Debonair)
www.rogerhalstead.com
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Default Re: Scan negative or print - 02-21-2006 , 12:32 PM



In message <3ljlv1hkpi54041jjoc7ofaoq7gk5kuvmq (AT) 4ax (DOT) com>, Roger
<Delete-Invallid.stuff.groups (AT) tm (DOT) net> writes
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On Fri, 17 Feb 2006 17:54:48 -0500, "KSB" <nospam (AT) nospam (DOT) net> wrote:

My scanner can scan negatives or scans up to 2400, I have both the negatives
and the prints of many pictures. Storage space and time are not issues. Any
recommendations appreciated,

You are a little short on information.

"Normally" the method is to scan the negatives if you have them as
they have more resolution and color depth than a print. I say,
normally as it depends on what you have for a scanner.
If he has a suitable scanner.

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2400 dpi isn't a lot for scanning negatives. At that resolution it
sounds like it might be a flat bed and they are not noted for doing
well on negatives although the newer ones are getting better.
And he might not, so scanning the prints might work better.

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Typically I scan 35mm color negatives at 4000dpi and prints at 600 dpi
which is about twice the resolution they contain. Scanning prints at
much above 300 dpi usually uses more memory with no gain in quality.
600dpi = 300dip x 2 (e.g. is 100% greater), so what I'm not sure quite
what you mean 'much above 300dpi'?

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Roger Halstead (K8RI & ARRL life member)
(N833R, S# CD-2 Worlds oldest Debonair)
www.rogerhalstead.com

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Default Re: Scan negative or print - 02-21-2006 , 06:27 PM



On Tue, 21 Feb 2006 17:32:00 +0000, Surfer! <surfer (AT) 127 (DOT) 0.0.1> wrote:

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In message <3ljlv1hkpi54041jjoc7ofaoq7gk5kuvmq (AT) 4ax (DOT) com>, Roger
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On Fri, 17 Feb 2006 17:54:48 -0500, "KSB" <nospam (AT) nospam (DOT) net> wrote:

My scanner can scan negatives or scans up to 2400, I have both the negatives
and the prints of many pictures. Storage space and time are not issues. Any
recommendations appreciated,

You are a little short on information.

"Normally" the method is to scan the negatives if you have them as
they have more resolution and color depth than a print. I say,
normally as it depends on what you have for a scanner.

If he has a suitable scanner.


2400 dpi isn't a lot for scanning negatives. At that resolution it
sounds like it might be a flat bed and they are not noted for doing
well on negatives although the newer ones are getting better.

And he might not, so scanning the prints might work better.


Typically I scan 35mm color negatives at 4000dpi and prints at 600 dpi
which is about twice the resolution they contain. Scanning prints at
much above 300 dpi usually uses more memory with no gain in quality.

600dpi = 300dip x 2 (e.g. is 100% greater), so what I'm not sure quite
what you mean 'much above 300dpi'?
Compared to the scanner capabilities we are dealing near the bottom
end at 300 dpi and on mine the next even multiple resolution from 300
is 600. It's just a convenient number. I could also use 400 which is
one tenth of the native scanner resolution, but I prefer a bit more
binary information to play with.

Roger Halstead (K8RI & ARRL life member)
(N833R, S# CD-2 Worlds oldest Debonair)
www.rogerhalstead.com

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Roger Halstead (K8RI & ARRL life member)
(N833R, S# CD-2 Worlds oldest Debonair)
www.rogerhalstead.com


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Default Re: Scan negative or print - 02-22-2006 , 07:50 AM



Many good suggestions above.

If you're a good darkroom printer you'll probably prefer to work from
the neg, though that involves more learning if you're not already good
at scanning negs.

If you're NOT a good darkroom printer, just want good copies of good
original prints, you probably should scan those prints...much easier to
copy than to learn how to make good original printed images (might
entail contrast adjustments, density adjustments, dodging, burning,
dust spotting) as well as how to copy.


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