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Richard C.
 
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Default Re: DVDs - "Blanks" and "Fully Erased" ... What's the difference? - 03-31-2007 , 10:27 AM






"MassiveProng" <MassiveProng (AT) thebarattheendoftheuniverse (DOT) org> wrote in
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On Sat, 31 Mar 2007 02:49:53 +0800, Ron <ron_j_mayer (AT) hotpop (DOT) com> Gave
us:

Hi! .....
My "Pioneer"


The difference is that alt.video.dvd is the WRONG GROUP for disc
burning questions, dipshit!
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Not necessarily, dimwit!



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Default Re: DVDs - "Blanks" and "Fully Erased" ... What's the difference? - 03-31-2007 , 10:35 AM






On Sat, 31 Mar 2007 09:23:47 +0200, Jan B <nospam (AT) nospam (DOT) se> wrote:

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On Sat, 31 Mar 2007 04:15:50 +0800, Ron <ron_j_mayer (AT) hotpop (DOT) com
wrote:

On Fri, 30 Mar 2007 19:04:51 GMT, Stan <srs666 (AT) despammed (DOT) com> wrote:

Ron <ron_j_mayer (AT) hotpop (DOT) com> wrote in
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Hi! .....
My "Pioneer" 'DVR-310' DVD Recorder accepts
and records to "DVD-R" and "DVD-RW" disks
provided they are brand new *blanks*.
It, however, rejects used DVD-RW disks if
they have been used to record computer data,
movies or anything else on another computer
or DVD recorder earlier.
Doesn't the Pioneer have a built-in function to erase or format RW disks?

No, it does not have either "erase" or "format" functions.
What it does when you put in a new *blank* DVD-RW is
to "auto initialize" the blank DVD-RW media. Once the
Pioneer Digital Video Recorder has done this, ther are
many editing functions that can be selected to delete,
rename, (etc) your video clips...... then, when the media
is nearly full, you can "finalize" it and you have your
completed DVD.

I'm not familiar with Pioneer, but I also notice that erasing the disc
on the computer (quick or full using any of InCD Erase, Plextor
utility, Nero Burning ROM) does not make it look new to the
stand-alone recorder.

It's not a big problem on my Philips (DVDR70) because it gives me the
option to quickly erase the disc with "unknown data" when I put it in.

What you should look for is a manual erase function.
On the Philips it is done by having the tray open and keep pressing
the "Clear" button on the remote for 10 seconds.

I guess you have tried the manual Initialize command under "Disc
Setup".

/Jan
At least your Philips DVDRR70 enables you to "quickly erase the
disc" ..... My Pioneer DVR-310 does not allow me to do anything
( erase, initialize,delete or wipe) to make the (used) DVD_RW
recordable.
No problems whatsoever with *new* blank DV-RWs though.....



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Ron
 
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Default Re: DVDs - "Blanks" and "Fully Erased" ... What's the difference? - 03-31-2007 , 10:35 AM



On Sat, 31 Mar 2007 16:01:43 GMT, glenzabr (AT) nospamhere (DOT) xmission.com
(GMAN) wrote:


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There has to be some sort of internal menu with a format function.

There *are* internal Menu functions... one of which is
"Disk Setup" ..... Manually selecting this option lets
you choose to "Initialize", "Finalize" and "Undo Finalize"
...... non of these functions function <S> except when a
new blank DVD-RW ( or a DVD-RW that had originally
been initialized by this Pioneer DVR ) is used.
I've tried formatting and/or wiping using "Nero", "InCD"
and "Alcohol-120%" ... but the Pioneer does not accept
the 'prepaired' DVD-RWs for normal processing.
these
I believe a utility that gets rid of *all* TOC and all sector/
formatting/finalizing info while wiping the DVD-RW would
enable pre used DVD-RWs to be recordable on the
Pioneer DVR.

I'm looking at page 53 of the manual right now, have you tried both VR and
VIDEO modes?
Page 53 - About recording using "VR Mode" and "Video Mode" .....
These work for a new blank DVD-RW but are not operational
when a formatted or erased disk is used.
ALL functions behave normally with *new* blanks though .....



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Default Re: DVDs - "Blanks" and "Fully Erased" ... What's the difference? - 03-31-2007 , 10:58 AM



On Sat, 31 Mar 2007 07:53:42 +0100, Ian Jackson
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In message <33pr031761n1r5lbdvkvhmsjakj0s4lkf9 (AT) 4ax (DOT) com>, MassiveProng
MassiveProng (AT) thebarattheendoftheuniverse (DOT) org> writes
On Sat, 31 Mar 2007 02:49:53 +0800, Ron <ron_j_mayer (AT) hotpop (DOT) com> Gave
us:

Hi! .....
My "Pioneer"


The difference is that alt.video.dvd is the WRONG GROUP for disc
burning questions, dipshit!

Anyone got a copy of the charter?
Ian.
You're a fucking retard! The dvdr group was, is, and always has been
the right group for this stupid burn it crap.

Not a.v.d, ya clueless fucktards.


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Default Re: DVDs - "Blanks" and "Fully Erased" ... What's the difference? - 03-31-2007 , 10:59 AM



On Sat, 31 Mar 2007 20:44:17 +1000, alvey
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On Sat, 31 Mar 2007 07:53:42 +0100, Ian Jackson wrote:

In message <33pr031761n1r5lbdvkvhmsjakj0s4lkf9 (AT) 4ax (DOT) com>, MassiveProng
MassiveProng (AT) thebarattheendoftheuniverse (DOT) org> writes
On Sat, 31 Mar 2007 02:49:53 +0800, Ron <ron_j_mayer (AT) hotpop (DOT) com> Gave
us:

Hi! .....
My "Pioneer"


The difference is that alt.video.dvd is the WRONG GROUP for disc
burning questions, dipshit!

Anyone got a copy of the charter?
Ian.

If there was one then I'd expect that you'd be in breach of it. You know,
the point that says; Thou Shall Not Respond to Trolls or Deadshits.

I doubt very seriously that the charter for this group contains any
such dumb shit, you stupid fucktard.


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GMAN
 
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Default Re: DVDs - "Blanks" and "Fully Erased" ... What's the difference? - 03-31-2007 , 11:01 AM



In article <obfr0351aqnag3g3vg97qoft46eookehc7 (AT) 4ax (DOT) com>, Ron <ron_j_mayer (AT) hotpop (DOT) com> wrote:
Quote:
On Fri, 30 Mar 2007 22:03:21 GMT, glenzabr (AT) nospamhere (DOT) xmission.com
(GMAN) wrote:

In article <fvrq035iunva0br7n6mf471kh1fjjuir7b (AT) 4ax (DOT) com>, Ron
ron_j_mayer (AT) hotpop (DOT) com> wrote:
On Fri, 30 Mar 2007 19:04:51 GMT, Stan <srs666 (AT) despammed (DOT) com> wrote:

Ron <ron_j_mayer (AT) hotpop (DOT) com> wrote in
news:fumq03lnb815arohj5pgoeajr4p39m2a17 (AT) 4ax (DOT) com:


Hi! .....
My "Pioneer" 'DVR-310' DVD Recorder accepts
and records to "DVD-R" and "DVD-RW" disks
provided they are brand new *blanks*.
It, however, rejects used DVD-RW disks if
they have been used to record computer data,
movies or anything else on another computer
or DVD recorder earlier.
Doesn't the Pioneer have a built-in function to erase or format RW disks?

No, it does not have either "erase" or "format" functions.
What it does when you put in a new *blank* DVD-RW is
to "auto initialize" the blank DVD-RW media. Once the
Pioneer Digital Video Recorder has done this, ther are
many editing functions that can be selected to delete,
rename, (etc) your video clips...... then, when the media
is nearly full, you can "finalize" it and you have your
completed DVD.

There has to be some sort of internal menu with a format function.

There *are* internal Menu functions... one of which is
"Disk Setup" ..... Manually selecting this option lets
you choose to "Initialize", "Finalize" and "Undo Finalize"
...... non of these functions function <S> except when a
new blank DVD-RW ( or a DVD-RW that had originally
been initialized by this Pioneer DVR ) is used.
I've tried formatting and/or wiping using "Nero", "InCD"
and "Alcohol-120%" ... but the Pioneer does not accept
the 'prepaired' DVD-RWs for normal processing.
these
I believe a utility that gets rid of *all* TOC and all sector/
formatting/finalizing info while wiping the DVD-RW would
enable pre used DVD-RWs to be recordable on the
Pioneer DVR.
I'm looking at page 53 of the manual right now, have you tried both VR and
VIDEO modes?


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Default Re: DVDs - "Blanks" and "Fully Erased" ... What's the difference? - 03-31-2007 , 11:03 AM



On Sat, 31 Mar 2007 08:27:11 -0700, "Richard C."
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"MassiveProng" <MassiveProng (AT) thebarattheendoftheuniverse (DOT) org> wrote in
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On Sat, 31 Mar 2007 02:49:53 +0800, Ron <ron_j_mayer (AT) hotpop (DOT) com> Gave
us:

Hi! .....
My "Pioneer"


The difference is that alt.video.dvd is the WRONG GROUP for disc
burning questions, dipshit!

===========================
Not necessarily, dimwit!

Fuck off, RichTard!


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Richard C.
 
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Default Re: DVDs - "Blanks" and "Fully Erased" ... What's the difference? - 03-31-2007 , 01:30 PM



Your people skills are lower than that of a 9 year old abused boy!
Real adults use NONE of the words that you spew out in every post you make.

Grow up, you pathetic little man.

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"MassiveProng" <MassiveProng (AT) thebarattheendoftheuniverse (DOT) org> wrote in
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On Sat, 31 Mar 2007 02:49:53 +0800, Ron <ron_j_mayer (AT) hotpop (DOT) com> Gave
us:

Hi! .....
My "Pioneer"


The difference is that alt.video.dvd is the WRONG GROUP for disc
burning questions, dipshit!

===========================
Not necessarily, dimwit!


Fuck off, RichTard!


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Stan Brown
 
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Default Re: DVDs - "Blanks" and "Fully Erased" ... What's the difference? - 03-31-2007 , 02:21 PM



Sat, 31 Mar 2007 23:35:32 +0800 from Ron <ron_j_mayer (AT) hotpop (DOT) com>:
Quote:
My Pioneer DVR-310 does not allow me to do anything
( erase, initialize,delete or wipe) to make the (used) DVD_RW
recordable.
No problems whatsoever with *new* blank DV-RWs though....
Have you tried asking in AVS Forum? I've received lots of help there
with my Pioneer 633 and 640.

http://www.avsforum.com/avs-vb/forumdisplay.php?f=106

--
Stan Brown, Oak Road Systems, Tompkins County, New York, USA
http://OakRoadSystems.com/
DVD FAQ: http://dvddemystified.com/dvdfaq.html
other FAQs: http://oakroadsystems.com/genl/faqget.htm


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Default Re: DVDs - "Blanks" and "Fully Erased" ... What's the difference? - 03-31-2007 , 03:49 PM



On Sat, 31 Mar 2007 11:30:29 -0700, "Richard C."
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Grow up, you pathetic little man.
I've got nine inches of "little man" to go up in your pathetic
little ass with, little girl.

You top posting Usenet retard!


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