<edenesiuk (AT) cogeco (DOT) ca> wrote

after as few as 10 write/erase cycles. There are posts about this in the
various dvd newsgroups.

Also, some people have experienced significant signal loss on rewriteabe
dvd's after month or years, so this apparently should not be considered a
permanant media.

Your mileage may vary.....

Stuart

In article <XMNUh.83538$aG1.4486@pd7urf3no>, "Stuart Miller" <stuart_miller (AT) shaw (DOT) ca> wrote:
dont match the proper media to the PC recorder or Standalone recorder. I have
some DVD-RW's that i have used repeatedly over 300 times in my standalone Sony
RDR-GX7 and still going strong.

GMAN wrote:
....
You are right, disk breath :-) The absorbtion spectrum of the dye must
match (center on) the power spectrum of the laser. The trouble is that
this info is company proprietary (unpublished) so you are best off by
matching the manufacturer with the recorder. I suspect those TY folk
have done the best reverse engineering of this issue.

And of course others are faking the TY brand:
http://www.supermediastore.com/taiyo...e-or-real.html

In article <XMNUh.83538$aG1.4486@pd7urf3no>,
Stuart Miller <stuart_miller (AT) shaw (DOT) ca> wrote:
The more expensive DVD-RAM disks - which would be fine if he's
going to use them over and over - are good for thousands of
write/erase cycles. They act more like small hard-drives and can
actually be used as re-writeable filesystems for OSes that
support it.

Bill

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On 15 Apr 2007 16:48:22 -0700, edenesiuk (AT) cogeco (DOT) ca wrote:

Have you thought about buying a DVD Recorder with a hard drive?
I own 3 Panasonic recorders, the E30 (no hdd), the EH60 with its 200Gb
hard drive and the EX75 with its 160Gb hard drive.

Record to the internal hard drive, edit out ads or what ever you like
on the hard drive of the recorder. Create your own chapter points and
set the thumbnail to what ever you like. I find them easier to use
than editting from the computer.

Please note, I do not sell these DVD recorders but have used them
since 2003.

Pioneer has two new recorders that have eSATA connection to connect an
external hard drive for easier archiving than dubbing back the slow
way to DVD media which on some models after finalizing can be anywhere
from about 7 mins to 11mins for the latest recorders for a full disc
burn.

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On Mon, 16 Apr 2007 22:45:01 GMT, bv (AT) wjv (DOT) com (Bill Vermillion) wrote:

The RiDATA DVD-RAM 3X video disc I bought back in 2004 still works
today for rewites some 3 years later. Bought them for my first
recorder which was the Panasonic DMR-E30 which I bought in April of
2003. Hardly use DVD-RAM these days as my two latest recorders have
hard drives on them which are much easier to play with than messing
around with DVD blanks on a recorder with no hard drive.

I did play around with DVD-RW and DVD+RW but after a few re writes
found the media to be a bit unreliable. Mainly use DVD-R with the odd
DVD-RAM these days.

DVD-RAM are like small hard drives with up to 100,000 re writes.
I've done a few hundred re writes on the DVD-RAM discs that I have
used over the last few years and the media still holds up well today.
The RiDATA DVD-RAM 3X I bought was from 3 years ago and these
haven't missed a beat since.

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In article <4624c74f.4886703 (AT) news-server (DOT) bigpond.net.au>,
SalesMart.com.au <sales@___Email_Address_on_Web_site> wrote:
On some of the earliest DVD-RW I got - Optodisk - I'd get failures
after as few a 4 writes and don't think I got more than 10.
Really poor media IMO

And they are used often for computer backups where you dno't need
more than the 4GB capacity. All the systems I work with have
gone long past that limit however - and the 60/120 GB tape drives
are starting to look small :-(

Bill

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Hello,

On Tue, 17 Apr 2007 13:16:36 GMT, sales@___Email_Address_on_Web_site
(SalesMart.com.au) wrote:

1. You have to format them in Fat32 to use them as 'harddiscs'. For
some reason (?) I had to try formatting them under WindowsXP Home
quite a couple of times in order to succeed formatting them in that
format. WindowsXP does not support dvd-ram natively, I had to use a
utility I found on the Pioneer site to be able to use dvd-ram for
video. Windows Vista should give native support for this kind of
media.
Also, dvd-ram media are horribly slow so you will have to buy the
newer 12 x dvd-rams and a drive that can work with these new ram's for
working confortably. These drives are not (yet?) sold in Europe. They
are however used very much in Japan.

2. One can make dvd-rw better by formatting them a couple of times
before using them for the first time but unless formatting them before
every time you want to use them they will wear out anyway. That at
least has been argued in certain newsgroups.



Massimo

On Wed, 18 Apr 2007 06:20:29 +0200, Massimo <och@'tisnietwaar.nl>
wrote:

FAT32 is far to slow to use. Use UDF, you can thank me latter.
The RiDATA DVD-RAM Video media is already fornmatted to UDF which is
what the DVD recorders use.

For the PC you'll need a UDF driver which is in NeroInCD which if you
have Nero you'll likely already have this installed.

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On Tue, 17 Apr 2007 16:45:01 GMT, bv (AT) wjv (DOT) com (Bill Vermillion) wrote:

For computer backups I prefer to use USB2 hard drives which are many
times faster than DVD will ever be. To backup 4Gb only takes seconds
on my system.

In another life I once used 250Mb Tape drives but that was going back
some years. I still have the old Conner Tape drive sitting up on a
shelf. Seagate took over Conner years ago thats how old it is.

There are those thumb drives that are out to 128Gb now. These are
smaller than a car key but at 128Gb cost an arm and a leg. 4Gb
thumb/flash drives are about $55 AUS dollars now and these are
becoming quite popular. The 16Gb thumb/flash drives have just made
their way to Australia but they are to expensive at $300 AUS. Like
every new toy they'll come down in price over time. Just a couple oif
years ago a 1Gb thumb drive would have been over $2000 AUS and now
they are only about $35 AUS.

There are also external 2.5" and would you believe 1.8" drives which
are out to 40Gb already. Seagate has a 7200rpm 2.5" drive available
now so those that are lookng at laptops ought to make sure it has one
of these newer drives in them.

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