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Keith
 
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Default Re: registered memory choices... please HELP! - 05-23-2006 , 10:20 AM






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SPAM^nothanks (AT) tellurian (DOT) com says...
Quote:
On Mon, 22 May 2006 06:56:23 -0500, willbill <trek (AT) worldwide (DOT) net> wrote:

George Macdonald wrote:

On Sun, 21 May 2006 01:20:34 -0500, willbill <trek (AT) worldwide (DOT) net> wrote:

willbill wrote:


add that 3rd GB of memory,


fwiw, that went ok. the corsair DDR 400
that i got isn't on the S.M. approved list
(for the H8DCE), but it is on Tyan's list.
the bios sees the 2GB of 400 1st, but also
notices the 1GB of 333 and during boot
the post messages show that the 3GB of
memory is running at 333

Hmm, I'm curious about this H8DCE - it says it requires an ATX 12V P/S
*but* with both a 4-pin *and* 8-pin 12V conenctors. I've never seen an ATX
P/S with the 8-pin connectro and the EPS12V ones seem to have just the
8-pin and no 4-pin - no?

The SSI EPS12V spec requires the 24-pin "baseboard power
connector", the 8-pin "Processor power connector", and the 4-pin
"12V4 baseboard power connector" for systems requiring more than
16A of 12V.[*]

"Systems that require more then [sic] 16A of +12V current [sic]
to the baseboard will require this additional 2x2 power
connector.. This is due to the limited +12V capability of
the 2x12 baseboard power connector. +12V4 will power this
2x2 connector.

http://ssiforum.org/Power%20Supplies...pec%202_91.pdf
[*] The Tyan S2875 uses the 24-pin, 8-pin, and a Molex disk drive
connector. I have an ATX12V (20-pin and 4-pin) ATX-12V supply in
mine.

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Keith


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George Macdonald
 
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Default Re: registered memory choices... please HELP! - 05-23-2006 , 08:06 PM






On Tue, 23 May 2006 10:20:40 -0400, Keith <krw (AT) att (DOT) bizzzz> wrote:

Quote:
In article <ttr572dvl17p1apos4778rf3onhsgr733s (AT) 4ax (DOT) com>, fammacd=!
SPAM^nothanks (AT) tellurian (DOT) com says...
On Mon, 22 May 2006 06:56:23 -0500, willbill <trek (AT) worldwide (DOT) net> wrote:

George Macdonald wrote:

On Sun, 21 May 2006 01:20:34 -0500, willbill <trek (AT) worldwide (DOT) net> wrote:

willbill wrote:


add that 3rd GB of memory,


fwiw, that went ok. the corsair DDR 400
that i got isn't on the S.M. approved list
(for the H8DCE), but it is on Tyan's list.
the bios sees the 2GB of 400 1st, but also
notices the 1GB of 333 and during boot
the post messages show that the 3GB of
memory is running at 333

Hmm, I'm curious about this H8DCE - it says it requires an ATX 12V P/S
*but* with both a 4-pin *and* 8-pin 12V conenctors. I've never seen an ATX
P/S with the 8-pin connectro and the EPS12V ones seem to have just the
8-pin and no 4-pin - no?

The SSI EPS12V spec requires the 24-pin "baseboard power
connector", the 8-pin "Processor power connector", and the 4-pin
"12V4 baseboard power connector" for systems requiring more than
16A of 12V.[*]

"Systems that require more then [sic] 16A of +12V current [sic]
to the baseboard will require this additional 2x2 power
connector.. This is due to the limited +12V capability of
the 2x12 baseboard power connector. +12V4 will power this
2x2 connector.

http://ssiforum.org/Power%20Supplies...pec%202_91.pdf
Ahah - thanks. Now if the mbrd & P/S mfrs would be a bit more explicit,
we'd know what to buy. I mean: SuperMicro just says ATX with the obviously
non-ATX combo of 4-pin + 8-pin connectors. I guess they'd rather you just
buy their chassis with the correct P/S.

Quote:
[*] The Tyan S2875 uses the 24-pin, 8-pin, and a Molex disk drive
connector. I have an ATX12V (20-pin and 4-pin) ATX-12V supply in
mine.
Yeah I remember you saying something about the 4-pin molex disk drive
connector when you built it. So you have half of the 8-pin socket occupied
by the 4-pin?

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willbill
 
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Default Re: registered memory choices... please HELP! - 05-23-2006 , 09:14 PM



George Macdonald wrote:
Quote:
On Mon, 22 May 2006 06:56:23 -0500, willbill <trek (AT) worldwide (DOT) net> wrote:


George Macdonald wrote:


On Sun, 21 May 2006 01:20:34 -0500, willbill <trek (AT) worldwide (DOT) net> wrote:

willbill wrote:


add that 3rd GB of memory,


fwiw, that went ok. the corsair DDR 400
that i got isn't on the S.M. approved list
(for the H8DCE), but it is on Tyan's list.
the bios sees the 2GB of 400 1st, but also
notices the 1GB of 333 and during boot
the post messages show that the 3GB of
memory is running at 333


Hmm, I'm curious about this H8DCE - it says it requires an ATX 12V P/S
*but* with both a 4-pin *and* 8-pin 12V conenctors. I've never seen an ATX
P/S with the 8-pin connectro and the EPS12V ones seem to have just the
8-pin and no 4-pin - no?

the whole power supply thing is confusing

as you point out in your 1st line, the H8DCE requires
"an ATX 12V P/S"

meaning they say nothing about needing a 24 pin
and an 8 pin and a 4 pin, but that's somewhat
built into the "12V" ATX and EPS specs

start at www.wikipedia.org with: atx

at the bottom of the def, it shows the history of
the different power supply names (some 5 or 6 of
them) and a line on the basic general specs as well
as several useful external refs if you want a good
pdf file on the main recent ones. you'll note that
the ATX 12V line only mentions a 20 pin <grin>

i simply went to newegg, pulled up all of the power
supplies, saved it to my PC as an htm file and (off line)
decided i wanted a "12V" one with a single 120mm fan
and 24/8/4 connectors and went with CoolerMaster 550
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16817171009

it meets these specs:
EPS 12V V2.1 and ATX 12V V2.01

per SuperMicro on page 1-12 of the manual, the power
supply has to meet ATX 12V V1.1 or above and have
adequate power

too bad they don't mention the 24/8/4 connectors
on that page.

bill


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krw
 
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Default Re: registered memory choices... please HELP! - 05-23-2006 , 09:58 PM



In article <p75772hgbq8vn0vjfir1cqfd7l11412ue2 (AT) 4ax (DOT) com>, fammacd=!
SPAM^nothanks (AT) tellurian (DOT) com says...
Quote:
On Tue, 23 May 2006 10:20:40 -0400, Keith <krw (AT) att (DOT) bizzzz> wrote:

In article <ttr572dvl17p1apos4778rf3onhsgr733s (AT) 4ax (DOT) com>, fammacd=!
SPAM^nothanks (AT) tellurian (DOT) com says...
On Mon, 22 May 2006 06:56:23 -0500, willbill <trek (AT) worldwide (DOT) net> wrote:

George Macdonald wrote:

On Sun, 21 May 2006 01:20:34 -0500, willbill <trek (AT) worldwide (DOT) net> wrote:

willbill wrote:


add that 3rd GB of memory,


fwiw, that went ok. the corsair DDR 400
that i got isn't on the S.M. approved list
(for the H8DCE), but it is on Tyan's list.
the bios sees the 2GB of 400 1st, but also
notices the 1GB of 333 and during boot
the post messages show that the 3GB of
memory is running at 333

Hmm, I'm curious about this H8DCE - it says it requires an ATX 12V P/S
*but* with both a 4-pin *and* 8-pin 12V conenctors. I've never seen an ATX
P/S with the 8-pin connectro and the EPS12V ones seem to have just the
8-pin and no 4-pin - no?

The SSI EPS12V spec requires the 24-pin "baseboard power
connector", the 8-pin "Processor power connector", and the 4-pin
"12V4 baseboard power connector" for systems requiring more than
16A of 12V.[*]

"Systems that require more then [sic] 16A of +12V current [sic]
to the baseboard will require this additional 2x2 power
connector.. This is due to the limited +12V capability of
the 2x12 baseboard power connector. +12V4 will power this
2x2 connector.

http://ssiforum.org/Power%20Supplies...pec%202_91.pdf

Ahah - thanks. Now if the mbrd & P/S mfrs would be a bit more explicit,
we'd know what to buy. I mean: SuperMicro just says ATX with the obviously
non-ATX combo of 4-pin + 8-pin connectors. I guess they'd rather you just
buy their chassis with the correct P/S.
[*] The Tyan S2875 uses the 24-pin, 8-pin, and a Molex disk drive
connector. I have an ATX12V (20-pin and 4-pin) ATX-12V supply in
mine.

Yeah I remember you saying something about the 4-pin molex disk drive
connector when you built it. So you have half of the 8-pin socket occupied
by the 4-pin?
Yes, and a 24-pin socket occupied by a 20pin ATX plug, to boot.
Confused the hell outta me when I bought the damned thing too.
Pluging a disk drive connector into the motherboard took quite a
leap of faith.

--
Keith



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