~misfit~ wrote:


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Cheers
Malcolm °¿°

Malcolm wrote:
Hey Malcolm, fancy 'seeing' you here!

All the way man! Sheeit, I don't know about these new-fangled CPUs. Are they
multiplier-locked? What features does your mobo have? I'm just not familiar
with them.

I guess it comes back to the same old rules as for overclocking any CPU.
Ramp it up, a bit at a time, until Prime95 fails. Then up the core voltage a
notch and Prime again. Monitor core temp. MBM5 is good for this. If stable
then try increasing clockspeed again (Via FSB is the only way if multi is
locked). Next time Prime fails run Memtest86+ first to see if your RAM is
keeping up with your speed. If prime = fail and Memetest = pass then
increase vcore. Rinse and repeat until you have the CPU running at the max
temp you feel comfortable with. If Memtest fail then try increasing vdimm or
maybe, if available, run RAM asychronously, slower than CPU FSB. Or buy
better RAM. A high-quality PSU is a must, even theoretically 'good' brands
aren't always good. (For instance, most of the Thermaltake range have
unnaceptably high... ripple? Is that the word? Transients, not stable
voltage. I was reading a page by a guy who has been putting a few PSUs on an
oscilloscope and loading them up a bit. Sadly I don't have it bookmarked, it
was very interesting. Virtually all Thermaltake PSUs failed to meet *his*
standards. Good, clean power is the most overlooked aspect of OC'ing.
Everyone looks at cooling, RAM etc. Most think that, if the PSU has "600W"
on the side and is a known brand then its ok. Not so.

The problem is, a lot of the old-school, "if it ain't stable it ain't worth
it" OC'ers just haven't played with these new systems enough to give good
advice. Hence we're left with idiots calling each other names instead of
getting constructive advice.

Now, if anyone wants to buy me a few CPUs, coolers, PSUs, RAM modules and
mobos I'll happily spend hours testing and post my results, along with
advice for anyone who needs it. Hell, even one system will do, I can
extrapolate. :-)

Overclocking is an art. People get a system and think "I want to overclock
this bad-ass bitch" and come here expecting to be given a bunch of settings
and... Voila! OC'ed to the max! Yeah, right.

It just ain't like that IRL, there are so many variables it's sick. Develop
a methodology, such as that above, and persevere. To find your maximum,
stable, component-friendly, sustainable OC can take a month for any given
system. If you're good and have an analytical mind you can do it in a few
days or a week. Those proggys, Prime95 and Memetest86, really need to run
overnight, or 24 hours, towards the end of the process to ensure stability.
It takes time. Depending on what value most people put on their time, and
whether they enjoy OC'ing and PC hardware as a hobby or not, they may well
have been better off buying a faster CPU in the first place and forget
OC'ing.

Hope you're well and happy my man. Happy new year, to you and all the
a.c.h.o regs. (That's where I'm reading this, I put it back in the 'ng'
line. Must re-subscribe to a.c.h.o.a, I hevn't read there for a while now).
:-)

Cheers,
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~misfit~

Ed Light wrote:
Thanks.
One less idiot to deal with.

On a final note : -

The original poster (Kimmy) who got a bollocking for his/her/its annoying
inconsiderateness was the only one with any business in this thread.
He/she/it took it well and learned from the experience.

The three others who had absolutely f**k all business sticking their noses
in uninvited, are either very young or very dumb - take your pick.
Understand that when you stick your noses into such discussions uninvited,
you're gunna get flamed for stepping out of line.

I'm drawing a line underneath this now, so I don't want any more c**tish
remarks - OK ?

"Kimmy" <justagirl (AT) hotmail (DOT) com> wrote

Years ago this group used to be filled with overclockers, there was AMD and
Intel users here and the place used to rock! Then the AMD newsgroups were
born and it became mostly about Intel. Not sure what happened after that.

Check out some web forums, most are moderated so you don't have to be
subjected too dumb-ass flaming a-holes. ;p

This is just one of many.....
AMD Forums
http://forums.amd.com/

Cheers,
EdG

"Kimmy" <justagirl (AT) hotmail (DOT) com> wrote

Years ago this group used to be filled with overclockers, there was AMD and
Intel users here and the place used to rock! Then the AMD newsgroups were
born and it became mostly about Intel. Not sure what happened after that.

Check out some web forums, most are moderated so you don't have to be
subjected too dumb-ass flaming a-holes. ;p

This is just one of many.....
AMD Forums
http://forums.amd.com/

Cheers,
EdG