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overclocking my hunkajunk -
09-26-2006
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i love to tinker on computers, so my grandma answered that love with a computer. its an old gateway 2000 but it came nicely equipped. 10 gig drive ati mach 64 grafics, and a sb legacy soundcard. but speed had been an issue, especially since i putin my new burner combo and a new hard drive. its got an old intel pentium 133 mhz processor in it. since im pretty much pennyless, i looked for alternatives. i started hearing a lil of this and that on overclocking. i looked into it, and the second i looked into some of the walkthrus i found, i was lost. im not too familiar with the deeper aspects of a computer (but im a wiz at anything else computer related). i was hoping someone could give me a straitforward, simple walkthru on how to pep up my computer. thanks--darrell |
maybe this can help you:
http://www.pcguide.com/opt/oc/intro.htm
bye, Helmut
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Am Tue, 26 Sep 2006 14:20:27 -0000 schrieb GIRunit: i love to tinker on computers, so my grandma answered that love with a computer. its an old gateway 2000 but it came nicely equipped. 10 gig drive ati mach 64 grafics, and a sb legacy soundcard. but speed had been an issue, especially since i putin my new burner combo and a new hard drive. its got an old intel pentium 133 mhz processor in it. since im pretty much pennyless, i looked for alternatives. i started hearing a lil of this and that on overclocking. i looked into it, and the second i looked into some of the walkthrus i found, i was lost. im not too familiar with the deeper aspects of a computer (but im a wiz at anything else computer related). i was hoping someone could give me a straitforward, simple walkthru on how to pep up my computer. thanks--darrell Pentium 133 is such an old processor that i have no knowledge about. But maybe this can help you: http://www.pcguide.com/opt/oc/intro.htm bye, Helmut |
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'GIRunit' wrote, in part: | its got an old intel pentium 133 mhz processor in it. | since im pretty much pennyless, i looked for alternatives. i started | hearing a lil of this and that on overclocking. i looked into it, and | the second i looked into some of the walkthrus i found, i was lost. im | not too familiar with the deeper aspects of a computer (but im a wiz | at anything else computer related). i was hoping someone could give | me a straitforward, simple walkthru on how to pep up my computer. _____ You already know the bad news - your system has very low performance compared to any computer manufactured in this century. The good news is that the CPU clock multiplier is NOT locked on the Pentium 133 MHz. There may be a jumper on the motherboard to select the CPU clock multiplier. For a Pentium 133 MHz the stock setting should be 2X, giving a CPU clock speed of twice the FrontSide Bus speed. Changing the jumper to 2.5X gives the CPU a clock speed of 166 MHz; changing the jumper to 3X gives the CPU a clock speed of 200 MHz. Your CPU might work at either of these speeds; it might not. Increasing the CPU voltage helps overclocking to higher speeds; unfortunately your system is unlikely to have settings for changing the CPU voltage. An alternative to overclocking might be to find a used or 'pulled' Pentium 200 MHz or Pentium 233 MMX CPU; the cost should be around $15 US or less. I believe either should work in your system; the Pentium 200 certainly will. Below is a general approach to overclocking; it is unlikely than anyone can give you step-by-step instructions for your particular system. You will just have to find and identify jumpers on your motherboard and ask specific questions here. Good luck good info snipped for brevity |
IIRC, the P133 was the end of the S7 (66mhz fsb) and above that was the SS7
(100mhz fsb). It has been awhile, but I did go from a P90 to a 133 and I do
believe that was the max for my S7 MB. Many OEMs in those days did use 'off
the shelf' type MBs, so there just may be a jumper to raise the multiplier
like you said. The tough thing would be getting any information about just
what MB Gateway used. I think AMD had 66mhz processors that may have gone a
bit higher. My memory is junk, so the info here just may be too..........:-)
Ed
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All Pentium Classic and Pentium MMX were designed for a 50, 60, or 66 MHz FSB. The Pentium 60 and 66 ran VERY hot, and really had no overclocking potential ( though that is a guess, as I've never seen a report of anyone even trying.) |
IIRC. All other (pre-MMX) Pentiums ran at 3.3V vcore standard.
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Shaun.
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good info snipped for brevity IIRC, the P133 was the end of the S7 (66mhz fsb) and above that was the SS7 (100mhz fsb). |
standard.
The SS7/100MHz board was only needed to support (much) later AMD CPUs in the
400MHz and upwards range. Intel were well into Slot 1 and the Pentium II by
then.
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It has been awhile, but I did go from a P90 to a 133 and I do believe that was the max for my S7 MB. Many OEMs in those days did use 'off the shelf' type MBs, so there just may be a jumper to raise the multiplier like you said. The tough thing would be getting any information about just what MB Gateway used. I think AMD had 66mhz processors that may have gone a bit higher. My memory is junk, so the info here just may be too..........:-) |
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Shaun.
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FrontSide Bus speeds of 100 MHz did not appear until the Pentium II 350 MHz. The chipsets supporting 100 MHz FSB were not available until the Pentium II. All Pentium Classic and Pentium MMX were designed for a 50, 60, or 66 MHz FSB. The Pentium 60 and 66 ran VERY hot, and really had no overclocking potential ( though that is a guess, as I've never seen a report of anyone even trying.) My first Pentium was a Pentium 90 (60 MHz X 1.5). It would overclock to 66 MHz X 1.5 = 100 MHz, 60 X 2 = 120 MHz, and 50 X 1.5 = 125 MHz.) Pentium 133 MHz and up would reach 200 - 233 MHz. The earlier Pentium II CPUs were not multiplier locked, and could be overclocked by increasing the multiplier (Pentium II 233 MHz with a multiplier set to X 4.5 = 300 MHz) or by forcing the FSB to 100 MHz and reducing the multiplier (Pentium II 233 MHz with a 100 MHz FSB and a multiplier of X3 = 300 MHz.) My thought is that the original poster will have to scrutinize the motherboard looking for a silk-screened label and/or writing down the original settings and making guesses. That, and possibly purchasing a used/pulled Pentium 200 or 200 MMX. By the way, it is getting harder and harder to find reference sheets on older CPUs at the Intel site; I could not find anything but a loop when looking for the Pentium Classic/MMX. I'm going to download and save data sheets on all the older CPU lines. Phil Weldon Thanks Phil. Going back 8-10yrs is rough.........:-). I just read this |
Amazing where we have gone from the mid 90s.
Ed
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thanks a bunch yall. u have been very helpful. i was thinking about upgrading to the mmx 233 before overclocking it. do u think it would have a better potential? cuz i found good deals on that type of chip on ebay. also, i was wondering what i should do in the cooling corner, as far as what type of heat sink i should use and how big of a fan i need. It may. Overclocking is not cut and dried. Some chunks of silicon do better |
the best results were with MBs that could do 100/133mhz fsb and running a
100mhz processor at 133+. That was a bit later than yours and it has been
awhile for most of us since we OC'd the earlier Pentium and Pentium Pros.
Some of us have aged a bit, as you saw with the correction to my
post.......:-) Keep us informed.
Ed
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