Thanks for all the help and advice about the ASUS P3B-F Mobo. If I
can find a rev. 1.04 for a decent price I'll buy one. But all I seem
to find are the 1.03. I am not willing to modify the board. Thats
just getting too complicated and too much work for me.

Like I said, I have a working computer that can use this Slot 1,
Coppermine CPU Intel PIII 700/256/100/165V. (or my 500mhz cpu).
But this mobo is a piece of crap with it's built in video and lack of
slots and AGP. While I could get a PCI video card, the one and only
PCI slot on this mobo is filled with my USB 2.0 card.

If I cant find this Asus mobo, what other mobo brand can I use that
does not contain any onboard video, has lots of slots, AGP, and at
least 3 memory sockets? All I really want to do is change the mobo
and retain all my other cards, memory, etc. (and keep things simple,
and inexpensive). I do not play games, so I dont need blazing speed.
I just want another mobo that has some features and one where I can
use my AGP video card.

Can someone please recommend other used mobo brands that will work
with what I have? I will consider all brands, except Abit (because of
their bad caps issues). I do not want to have to do any modifications
to the mobo. Also, is there another Asus mobo that would work?

Thanks for all help.

George

george41407 (AT) neomail (DOT) com wrote:

Visit the Intel website and look up some of their classic motherboards
that were built around the i440BX chipset. The last serials from this
line could accept the Coppermine PIII's. When searching and buying, the
important information is the serial number or parts number series for
these motherboards. Same for the SuperMicro P6SBA's. But these were such
good motherboards that most just might still be in use, especially for
low end work.

On Mon, 21 May 2007 12:36:52 -0700, Ghostrider <-00- (AT) fitron (DOT) 142>
wrote:

Thanks for the info. One slight problem.....
Where the #%&^ does one find this info on the Intel website?
I just spent the past hour on there. (www.intel.com) After clicking on
processors and selecting my language about 10 times I never found
anything except their latest processors.

I have never understood why websites from large corporations are made
so no one can find anything on them.

By the way, instead of getting the Asus P3B-F mobo, what if I were to
get the ASUS P3V4X Apollo Pro 133A PENTIUM 3 Slot 1 Mobo? Will my P3
700mhz coppermine CPU work on that board? I found one of them for
sale. The seller dont know if it has the i440BX chipset. (he dont
seem to know much about computer hardware at all). This appears to be
a similar board but a little newer.

If these mobos were so good, how come they dont make them anymore?
I have heard they were excellent, which is why I want one, and I
suppose thats why they are hard to find. I keep finding the Asus
P3B-F, but all of them are rev. 1.03. The rev 1.04 dont seem to even
exist.

I also found a ASUS P3C2000 Series Motherboard with a
Pentium 3 Processor (667 Mhz) Installed on it. I guess for the
difference of 33mhz I could live with that too. I dont understand why
they even make processors with such odd MHZ numbers.....


George

george41407 (AT) neomail (DOT) com wrote:
You can look for "Intel" "440BX" boards here - the microBTX is probably
a typo:

http://www.motherboards.org/mobot/index.html

Part Number Manufacturer Chipset Form Factor
AB440ZX Alberta Intel 440BX
JN440BX Juneau Intel 440BX NLX
MP440BX Mount Prospect Intel 440BX ATX
N440BX Nightshade Intel 440BX ATX
RC440BX Rochester ATX Intel 440BX ATX
RC440BX Rochester mATX Intel 440BX microBTX (microATX?)
SE440BX Seattle Intel 440BX ATX
SE440BX-2 Seattle 2 Intel 440BX ATX
SE440BX-3 Seattle 3 Intel 440BX ATX
SR440BX Sun River Intel 440BX microATX
T440BX (NL440BX) Nightshade Light Intel 440BX ATX
WS440BX Warm Springs Intel 440BX ATX

Using some of the terms from that table, dug up this link:

http://support.intel.com/support/mot...op/archive.htm

For the P3V4X CPU support list, there is this:

http://support.asus.com.tw/cpusuppor...=en-us&cache=1

P3C2000 uses RDRAM. Camino. MTH. Problems. Discontinued. Say no more.

Processor speeds are based on multipliers. To get 667MHz, you'd
need 133Mhz x 5 or 66MHz x 10. If the processor was 600MHz,
then 100Mhz x 6 sounds good. It is best to look them up, and see
what speed FSB is being used. Multiplier can be "half integer", so
you can have 4.5 as a multiplier.

http://processorfinder.intel.com/List.aspx?ProcFam=25

When you have a real, honest to goodness, 133Mhz capable motherboard,
then buying a 133Mhz FSB processor for it makes sense. That optimizes
CPU to memory bandwidth. People with 100Mhz motherboards, only curse
the 133MHz ones, because they may not be able to make effective use
of them.

For the P3V4X, I'd start Googling. You might want to check and
see if it has any AGP problems - sometimes that is an issue with
older boards. I get the impression that a number of chipset
vendors struggled with AGP I/O design, so it is always something
to watch for, symptom wise.

Paul