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Will this ASUS P3B-F Mobo work? -
05-19-2007
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Good grief, this gets confusing..... I have built several computers, in the past, but when it comes to which mobo to get, I am lost. I can get a good deal on a ASUS P3B-F. I have looked on several websites and they all seem to conflict each other. As I mentioned the other day, I have the the Coppermine CPU Intel PIII 700/256/100/165V S1 What I am finding is that one website said that this mobo will support over 700mhz and another one that said will only support 450mhz, yet someone is selling one on Ebay with a 500mhz cpu included. At the same time, Asus own site dont seem to have any data on their older boards. Has anyone on here used a 700mhz CPU on this board? If this Mobo wont work, which Asus boards will work? Thanks George Hi, guess u can easily find a processor compatibility table |
I had a P3BF which is quite a good card.
I had a special bios on it and had a Tualatin 1.1 working
on it.
Try googling with P3BF ans u'll find plenty of informations.
Bye
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Thanks for the detailed help. Todays motherboards are a lot more difficult to match with a CPU than the old 386 / 486 boards were. Back then I'd just plug any cpu into any mobo that it would fit in and they always worked. The last computer I built was a Pentium 266 that I built in 1996 and it worked great and lasted 10 years. The mobo finally died last fall. It may have been caps, but I trashed it. The computer I am using now was an old slot 1 300mhz that I stuck a 500mhz cpu in. I just found that it will run this 700mhz cpu too. Unfortunately this mobo is junk. Even with the 700 in it, it's still slower than my old P266. I already know it's the built in junk video. The mobo dont even have an AGP slot. In fact all it has is ONE PCI slot, thats it. (thats why I got it for free). The ASUS P3B-F on Ebay was a rev. 1.03. I'll change a cap on a mobo, but not willing to get into modifications. I'll just keep shopping around for a 1.04. Just curious, what would be the next mobo from Asus that is slot 1? I know the ASUS P3B-F was very highly rated, I wonder if their next upgrade was as good. From all I have found, it seems that this P3B-F was one of the best boards ever made back then. Only the Abit seemed to rate higher, but I know that Abit boards have cap problems so I'll pass. Ya, I know I could get something much faster, but money is very tight, and I have the CPU and all the memory that will fit that era of mobo, and all the cards. For web use and some photo editing I really dont need more power. Just better graphics, and my AGP Rage card will do that and more. I figure if I can get a mobo for $20 - $25 I'm all set. I got a nice tower case and even have a USB2 add on card. On top of that, I still use Win98 most of the time. XP just dont excite me, and Vista is not even in my vocabulary. I dont need all that power...... I might upgrade to WinME though, just for the sake of not needing drivers all the time. You'll like this <lol I have switchable HDDs. Win98 WinME Win2K WinXP I just plugin which drive I want to use, but most of my data is on the Win98 drive. This computer will become one of my permanent ones. Two computers means I wont have to change drives as often, just switch the monitor cable. Thanks George PS. I thought the word "Slocket" was a typo, but I guess not. Does that refer to the Slot 1 types? ------------------- |
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Slocket
If you look at the list of directories on this Asus FTP site, you can
see that Roland's FAQ covers all of the slot 1 motherboards using 440BX.
There are some other motherboards of that era that were usable, but
they have S370 sockets on them.
ftp://ftp.asus.com.tw/pub/ASUS/mb/slot1/440bx
I don't know what the distribution of board revisions would be like
on Ebay, but if you use Roland's FAQ, you can check the "good"
revision numbers there.
To see the VID tables, you can look at a couple voltage regulator
specs. The first is a minimum 1.8V regulator from an older
board. The second is an example of a minimum 1.3V regulator. In
this case, they are both HIP6004 regulators, which is how I was
able to unsolder the first one, and replace it with the second one
on my P2B-S.
http://www.intersil.com/data/fn/fn4417.pdf HIP6004A
http://www.intersil.com/data/fn/fn4567.pdf HIP6004B
Table 1 in those documents, shows the VID codes. To change 1.65V
to 1.8V, to run your processor in a 1.03 revision board, you would
need to insulate a couple fingers on the processor module, plus add
a jumper (using the concept shown on the Tipperlinne page). In my case,
I did the mod on the processor module, using a knife and soldering iron,
because I wanted the mod to be a reliable one. Insulating fingers can
be a tricky business.
I know you don't have a lot of money to throw around, but you could
also use a PCI video card in your current computer. They still make
them, and you can probably find them on Ebay as well. The cheapest
new one here is $33.
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...Subcategory=48
If I check a review here, nobody seems to complain about the 2D
performance. Some complain that doing 3D games on PCI is too slow,
which is understandable. You might want to read the reviews for some
of the other PCI video cards, and see if people are happy with their
desktop performance. Although I would have thought, for 2D performance,
the built-in graphics on your current motherboard, should have a higher
bandwidth connection to the rest of the system.
http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16814103031
Paul
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| On Sat, 19 May 2007 04:59:46 -0400, Paul <nospam (AT) needed (DOT) com> wrote: george41407 (AT) neomail (DOT) com wrote: Good grief, this gets confusing..... I have built several computers, in the past, but when it comes to which mobo to get, I am lost. I can get a good deal on a ASUS P3B-F. I have looked on several websites and they all seem to conflict each other. As I mentioned the other day, I have the the Coppermine CPU Intel PIII 700/256/100/165V S1 What I am finding is that one website said that this mobo will support over 700mhz and another one that said will only support 450mhz, yet someone is selling one on Ebay with a 500mhz cpu included. At the same time, Asus own site dont seem to have any data on their older boards. Has anyone on here used a 700mhz CPU on this board? If this Mobo wont work, which Asus boards will work? Thanks George |
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george41407 (AT) neomail (DOT) com wrote: Thanks for the detailed help. Todays motherboards are a lot more difficult to match with a CPU than the old 386 / 486 boards were. Back then I'd just plug any cpu into any mobo that it would fit in and they always worked. The last computer I built was a Pentium 266 that I built in 1996 and it worked great and lasted 10 years. The mobo finally died last fall. It may have been caps, but I trashed it. The computer I am using now was an old slot 1 300mhz that I stuck a 500mhz cpu in. I just found that it will run this 700mhz cpu too. Unfortunately this mobo is junk. Even with the 700 in it, it's still slower than my old P266. I already know it's the built in junk video. The mobo dont even have an AGP slot. In fact all it has is ONE PCI slot, thats it. (thats why I got it for free). The ASUS P3B-F on Ebay was a rev. 1.03. I'll change a cap on a mobo, but not willing to get into modifications. I'll just keep shopping around for a 1.04. Just curious, what would be the next mobo from Asus that is slot 1? I know the ASUS P3B-F was very highly rated, I wonder if their next upgrade was as good. From all I have found, it seems that this P3B-F was one of the best boards ever made back then. Only the Abit seemed to rate higher, but I know that Abit boards have cap problems so I'll pass. Ya, I know I could get something much faster, but money is very tight, and I have the CPU and all the memory that will fit that era of mobo, and all the cards. For web use and some photo editing I really dont need more power. Just better graphics, and my AGP Rage card will do that and more. I figure if I can get a mobo for $20 - $25 I'm all set. I got a nice tower case and even have a USB2 add on card. On top of that, I still use Win98 most of the time. XP just dont excite me, and Vista is not even in my vocabulary. I dont need all that power...... I might upgrade to WinME though, just for the sake of not needing drivers all the time. You'll like this <lol I have switchable HDDs. Win98 WinME Win2K WinXP I just plugin which drive I want to use, but most of my data is on the Win98 drive. This computer will become one of my permanent ones. Two computers means I wont have to change drives as often, just switch the monitor cable. Thanks George PS. I thought the word "Slocket" was a typo, but I guess not. Does that refer to the Slot 1 types? ------------------- There is a short article here. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Slocket If you look at the list of directories on this Asus FTP site, you can see that Roland's FAQ covers all of the slot 1 motherboards using 440BX. There are some other motherboards of that era that were usable, but they have S370 sockets on them. ftp://ftp.asus.com.tw/pub/ASUS/mb/slot1/440bx I don't know what the distribution of board revisions would be like on Ebay, but if you use Roland's FAQ, you can check the "good" revision numbers there. To see the VID tables, you can look at a couple voltage regulator specs. The first is a minimum 1.8V regulator from an older board. The second is an example of a minimum 1.3V regulator. In this case, they are both HIP6004 regulators, which is how I was able to unsolder the first one, and replace it with the second one on my P2B-S. http://www.intersil.com/data/fn/fn4417.pdf HIP6004A http://www.intersil.com/data/fn/fn4567.pdf HIP6004B Table 1 in those documents, shows the VID codes. To change 1.65V to 1.8V, to run your processor in a 1.03 revision board, you would need to insulate a couple fingers on the processor module, plus add a jumper (using the concept shown on the Tipperlinne page). In my case, I did the mod on the processor module, using a knife and soldering iron, because I wanted the mod to be a reliable one. Insulating fingers can be a tricky business. I know you don't have a lot of money to throw around, but you could also use a PCI video card in your current computer. They still make them, and you can probably find them on Ebay as well. The cheapest new one here is $33. http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...Subcategory=48 If I check a review here, nobody seems to complain about the 2D performance. Some complain that doing 3D games on PCI is too slow, which is understandable. You might want to read the reviews for some of the other PCI video cards, and see if people are happy with their desktop performance. Although I would have thought, for 2D performance, the built-in graphics on your current motherboard, should have a higher bandwidth connection to the rest of the system. http://www.newegg.com/Product/Produc...82E16814103031 Paul On Sat, 19 May 2007 04:59:46 -0400, Paul <nospam (AT) needed (DOT) com> wrote: george41407 (AT) neomail (DOT) com wrote: Good grief, this gets confusing..... I have built several computers, in the past, but when it comes to which mobo to get, I am lost. I can get a good deal on a ASUS P3B-F. I have looked on several websites and they all seem to conflict each other. As I mentioned the other day, I have the the Coppermine CPU Intel PIII 700/256/100/165V S1 What I am finding is that one website said that this mobo will support over 700mhz and another one that said will only support 450mhz, yet someone is selling one on Ebay with a 500mhz cpu included. At the same time, Asus own site dont seem to have any data on their older boards. Has anyone on here used a 700mhz CPU on this board? If this Mobo wont work, which Asus boards will work? Thanks George More on the P3BF |
http://www.mrufer.ch/pc/tualatin_e.html
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