Building a new system around an Asus P4C800E. It will mostly be used for 2D
work, ranging from text to Photoshop, to the occasional (??) game. On most
of the systems I've built to date I've used Matrox boards, largely for the
high-quality 2D performance and general stability. However, on recent
systems the Matrox and Asus boards do not necessarily play nicely together
in certain graphics modes.

Bottom line - for general purpose use, but very high quality and stability
2D (NOT high-performance, high-end gaming), what board(s) out there would
you all recommend? I'm leaning toward considering an Asus board for
possibly better compatibility. For this system, I'd like to keep the price
to a max of about $150 (Web price, OEM or retail). Any recommendations
appreciated.

Thanks.

I've used,
Matrox G400
Voodoo5
Nvidia 5200
ATI 9100
and now an ATI 9600 PRO AIW.
So I would say to get an ATI 9600 PRO or even an 9600 XT

"ke" <elliottk (AT) earthlink (DOT) net> wrote

Get a P650 and do all the stuff that Matrox's TS says and then it works for
2D. I'm running two P4C800E Deluxes(1016)(XP, W2K3) with P650s.

"ke" <elliottk (AT) earthlink (DOT) net> wrote

Ron Reaugh <ron-reaugh (AT) worldnet (DOT) att.net> wrote:
You can't just make a statement like "Not true" without qualifying it -- you
make yourself look like an idiot.

For i865/875 with a plain ICH5, or with an ICH5R without running RAID,
there's no compatible IAA.

There's something called "Intel Application Accelerator Raid Edition" for
i865/875+ICH5R with RAID 0 or 1, but that's just Intel's RAID driver with a
new name, and has nothing to do with IAA as discussed here.

--
*Art

On Tue, 13 Apr 2004 02:36:19 GMT, "Ron Reaugh"
<ron-reaugh (AT) worldnet (DOT) att.net> wrote:

You can check at Intel for yourself:

http://www.intel.com/support/chipset.../CS-009312.htm

Included on this page listing chipsets IAA supports is the following
statement:

Note: The Intel Application Accelerator is not compatible with the
Intel® 875P, 865G/P/PE, 852/855 GM/GME, 855MP, 848P, 815EM chipset,
the Intel® 440 chipset family, or any earlier Intel chipsets.

Larc



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Kind of where I was leaning (Matrox 650). But I wanted to get some input to
assess whether it made any sense to consider an Asus video board, in the
(unfounded) hope that there would be more seamless compatibility with the
Asus P4C800. I've been using older Matrox boards (400, 450, 550) with Asus
mobos, with generally solid results, but recently built a system around a
P4C533 and a Matrox 550 that experienced a hard crash (full power down)
whenever WMP 9 was used to view a video. (realPlayer handles the same video
with no issues). Never solved the issue, regardless of drivers used, etc.
This and other little annoyances led me to look at options other than the
Matrox 650 before plunking down the $.

Thanks for the input.



"Ron Reaugh" <ron-reaugh (AT) worldnet (DOT) att.net> wrote

Hi Ke,

I have the P4C800E Deluxe (i think that is what it is :-) ) with the
Parhelia and I am very pleased with it, which I use for Digital Darkroom
working on DSLR files.

I can't think of any problems and I have had this for some time now.

Good luck

Henrik
"ke" <elliottk (AT) earthlink (DOT) net> wrote

"ke" wrote in message...
What makes you think there's some sort of chronic incompatibility between
Matrox cards (in general) and the board you're considering? It would appear
that your previous experience is overwhelmingly positive, no?

At end of day the best board for your chosen application would appear to be
the Millennium P650, and there's no reason to expect any compatibility
issues with it.
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Historically my experience with Matrox boards has been positive, but recent
problems unique to the combination of a G550 and an Asus P4B533 have caused
me to consider other video options for a new system based on the Asus
P4C800E. While the problems experienced (system crashes caused by certain
video calls) can easily be worked around by an experienced user, since I
need to supply this system to non-technically oriented customer(s) who would
understandably be apoplectic if the system does not function flawlessly in
any and all applications they are likely to run.

Hence the interest in trying to ensure the video element of the system is
relatively bulletproof. While the end user is likely to run his common
applications day in and day out for weeks or months at a time with the
Asus-Matrox combo without a hiccup, I'd like to avoid any callbacks due to
system crashes when the end user happens to open a video using WMP 9 (or
whatever other application may access the same video call(s) that cause a
system crash in WMP9).

Thanks for the input.


"Richard Hopkins" <richh (AT) dsl (DOT) popex.co.uk> wrote

On Wed, 14 Apr 2004 16:05:57 +0800, "Henrik Tived"
<tived (AT) iinet (DOT) net.au> wrote:

you'll need. Great 2D and I have no problem playing dvds, etc.