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Default Re: Boot Problem: Mobo/Power? - 02-05-2007 , 08:47 PM






Thanks much to all of you who responded to my question.

JAD wrote:
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hows the temps?
This happens starting from a cold system.

Paul wrote:
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Between the DIMM slots, and the main power connector,
is the Standby Power Indicator LED. When the PSU is
switched on at the back, the LED should light, and it
should not wink or blink.
Solid as a rock

RussellS wrote:
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Jim,
What memory do you have installed?
http://www.intel.com/products/mother...ddr2/index.htm.
Kingston KVR667D2N5K2/2G (1.8v DDR2-667). I forgot to
mention that the system has been working for several
months and just started doing this recycling behavior.
Good question, though.

DaveW wrote:
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The only way to tell which is bad is to install a known working
PSU and see if that fixes it. (Much easier than first replacing
the motherboard.)
I guess I'll have to go buy a power supply.... :-(

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Jim Garrison
 
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Default Re: Boot Problem: Mobo/Power? - 02-05-2007 , 09:24 PM






OK, I measured the voltages on the PSU connector with
/PS_ON shorted to ground. I used the pinout chart
at http://pinouts.ru/Power/atx_v2_pinout.shtml for
reference, and found one potential bad voltage: Pin
14 should be -12, but on my PSU it's -10.5.

Is that enough to cause the observed behavior?

Everything else is within 2% of spec (3.3v reads 3.35,
12v reads 12.25, 5v reads 5.01 or 4.99).

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Default Re: Boot Problem: Mobo/Power? - 02-05-2007 , 09:55 PM




"Jim Garrison" <jhg (AT) acm (DOT) org> wrote

Quote:
Thanks much to all of you who responded to my question.

JAD wrote:
hows the temps?

This happens starting from a cold system.
thats not really answering the question. Within seconds the CPU can over
heat if... lets say the heat sink was bumped loose or improperly installed
to start.


Quote:
Paul wrote:
Between the DIMM slots, and the main power connector,
is the Standby Power Indicator LED. When the PSU is
switched on at the back, the LED should light, and it
should not wink or blink.

Solid as a rock

RussellS wrote:
Jim,
What memory do you have installed?
http://www.intel.com/products/mother...ddr2/index.htm.

Kingston KVR667D2N5K2/2G (1.8v DDR2-667). I forgot to
mention that the system has been working for several
months and just started doing this recycling behavior.
Good question, though.

DaveW wrote:
The only way to tell which is bad is to install a known working
PSU and see if that fixes it. (Much easier than first replacing
the motherboard.)

I guess I'll have to go buy a power supply.... :-(

--
Jim Garrison (jhg (AT) acm (DOT) org)
PGP Keys at http://www.jhmg.net RSA 0x04B73B7F DH 0x70738D88



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Default Re: Boot Problem: Mobo/Power? - 02-06-2007 , 04:47 AM



In comp.sys.ibm.pc.hardware.misc Jim Garrison <jhg (AT) acm (DOT) org> wrote:
Quote:
OK, I measured the voltages on the PSU connector with
/PS_ON shorted to ground. I used the pinout chart
at http://pinouts.ru/Power/atx_v2_pinout.shtml for
reference, and found one potential bad voltage: Pin
14 should be -12, but on my PSU it's -10.5.

Is that enough to cause the observed behavior?
Not really. -12V is hardly used on mainboards. The only usage I
know of is for the serial interface. There everyting between -5V
and -15V is acceptable.

Arno

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Everything else is within 2% of spec (3.3v reads 3.35,
12v reads 12.25, 5v reads 5.01 or 4.99).

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Jim Garrison
 
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Default Re: Boot Problem: Mobo/Power? [resolution] - 02-10-2007 , 07:53 PM



It was the power supply. I bought another one, put it
in, and it booted fine. Looks stable now. Thanks for
all the input and information.

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Arno Wagner
 
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Default Re: Boot Problem: Mobo/Power? [resolution] - 02-11-2007 , 11:33 AM



In comp.sys.ibm.pc.hardware.misc Jim Garrison <jhg (AT) acm (DOT) org> wrote:
Quote:
It was the power supply. I bought another one, put it
in, and it booted fine. Looks stable now. Thanks for
all the input and information.
Congratulations on getting it to work again. And thanks for posting
this feedback here.


PSUs are perhaps the most overlooked critical component today.

Arno


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Jim Garrison
 
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Default Re: Boot Problem: Mobo/Power? [resolution] - 02-12-2007 , 11:34 AM



Arno Wagner wrote:
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In comp.sys.ibm.pc.hardware.misc Jim Garrison <jhg (AT) acm (DOT) org> wrote:
It was the power supply. I bought another one, put it
in, and it booted fine. Looks stable now. Thanks for
all the input and information.

Congratulations on getting it to work again. And thanks for posting
this feedback here.


PSUs are perhaps the most overlooked critical component today.
And everybody should keep in mind the comments about NOT being
able to diagnose a power-supply problem from unloaded voltage
readings. Other than the -12v being a little low, all
other voltages were right on.


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