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Default Inappropriate hard drive? - 10-27-2005 , 04:33 PM






So I'm playing with a retailer's web interface, "building" a virtual system
by specifying the various parts for a proposed home PC build.

I start with an ASUS A8N-E motherboard + AMD 3000 processor.

I ask for a Western Digital SATA 120Gb/7200 RPM/8Mb cache hard drive, and I
get the following pop-up:

"Tech note: Please select this drive ONLY if you will be using in a RAID
array and a 24-7, continuous high duty cycle environment"

How come? Am I missing something totally obvious about putting what looks
to be a fairly basic 120 gig hard drive onto a fairly basic 939 board?

Cheers,

Dom



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Default Re: Inappropriate hard drive? - 10-27-2005 , 06:32 PM






In comp.sys.ibm.pc.hardware.misc Courteous D <micpowel (AT) bozofilter (DOT) indiana.edu> wrote:
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So I'm playing with a retailer's web interface, "building" a virtual system
by specifying the various parts for a proposed home PC build.

I start with an ASUS A8N-E motherboard + AMD 3000 processor.

I ask for a Western Digital SATA 120Gb/7200 RPM/8Mb cache hard drive, and I
get the following pop-up:

"Tech note: Please select this drive ONLY if you will be using in a RAID
array and a 24-7, continuous high duty cycle environment"

How come? Am I missing something totally obvious about putting what looks
to be a fairly basic 120 gig hard drive onto a fairly basic 939 board?
It is probably the time-limited error-correction variant of the drive
that indeed should not be used as a normal drive. Although my present
opinion is thet WD drives should be avoided for low reliability
anyways.

Arno


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Default Re: Inappropriate hard drive? - 10-28-2005 , 11:03 AM




"Arno Wagner" <me (AT) privacy (DOT) net> wrote

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In comp.sys.ibm.pc.hardware.misc Courteous D wrote:
"Tech note: Please select this drive ONLY if you will be using in a RAID
array and a 24-7, continuous high duty cycle environment"

It is probably the time-limited error-correction variant of the drive
that indeed should not be used as a normal drive. Although my present
opinion is thet WD drives should be avoided for low reliability
anyways.
Aces, Arno, thanks for the lead. That's exactly the case. Neither "Raid
Edition" nor "RE" were explicitly listed, but following up the model number
reveals that's what it is. New Thing Learned is a Good Thing.

Cheers, mate! Off to investigate reliability....




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Default Re: Inappropriate hard drive? - 10-28-2005 , 12:57 PM



In message <3sd2rlFmg9fqU1 (AT) individual (DOT) net>, Arno Wagner <me (AT) privacy (DOT) net>
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In comp.sys.ibm.pc.hardware.misc Courteous D
micpowel (AT) bozofilter (DOT) indiana.edu> wrote:
So I'm playing with a retailer's web interface, "building" a virtual system
by specifying the various parts for a proposed home PC build.

I start with an ASUS A8N-E motherboard + AMD 3000 processor.

I ask for a Western Digital SATA 120Gb/7200 RPM/8Mb cache hard drive, and I
get the following pop-up:

"Tech note: Please select this drive ONLY if you will be using in a RAID
array and a 24-7, continuous high duty cycle environment"

How come? Am I missing something totally obvious about putting what looks
to be a fairly basic 120 gig hard drive onto a fairly basic 939 board?

It is probably the time-limited error-correction variant of the drive
that indeed should not be used as a normal drive. Although my present
opinion is thet WD drives should be avoided for low reliability
anyways.

What does "time-limited error-correction" mean?
Doesn't sound very impressive!

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Jeremy Boden


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Arno Wagner
 
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Default Re: Inappropriate hard drive? - 10-28-2005 , 09:13 PM



In comp.sys.ibm.pc.hardware.misc Jeremy Boden <jeremy (AT) jboden (DOT) demon.co.uk> wrote:
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In message <3sd2rlFmg9fqU1 (AT) individual (DOT) net>, Arno Wagner <me (AT) privacy (DOT) net
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In comp.sys.ibm.pc.hardware.misc Courteous D
micpowel (AT) bozofilter (DOT) indiana.edu> wrote:
So I'm playing with a retailer's web interface, "building" a virtual system
by specifying the various parts for a proposed home PC build.

I start with an ASUS A8N-E motherboard + AMD 3000 processor.

I ask for a Western Digital SATA 120Gb/7200 RPM/8Mb cache hard drive, and I
get the following pop-up:

"Tech note: Please select this drive ONLY if you will be using in a RAID
array and a 24-7, continuous high duty cycle environment"

How come? Am I missing something totally obvious about putting what looks
to be a fairly basic 120 gig hard drive onto a fairly basic 939 board?

It is probably the time-limited error-correction variant of the drive
that indeed should not be used as a normal drive. Although my present
opinion is thet WD drives should be avoided for low reliability
anyways.

What does "time-limited error-correction" mean?
Doesn't sound very impressive!
It is not: The drive tries to re-read an unreadable sector
for a short and limited time only (a few seconds) instead of
the longer time a standard drive tries. The idea is that some
RAID controllers will classify a drive as unusable if it does
not respond for a time.

Why this makes sense is beyond me. Linux software RAID (which
I use) will classify a drive as broken if it reports unreadable
sectors as well and kicks it from the array. It seems some
RAID controllers consider a mere unreadable sector not as a
real problem. Also interessting that no other vendor besides
WD found this feature to be necessary. Maybe WD drives have
unreadable sectors more often than other drives?

Arno


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