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Default Re: ARGOSY - HD363N - Network Storage - 09-13-2005 , 09:32 AM






Kane81,
If I follow your notes correctly ... you are running a LANDISK with
the Argosy 06-0804 firmware, is that correct? If so, I'm curious
what happens to the 5 lights on the LANDISK, as the Tritton and
Argosy products only have 1 LED that serves multiple functions.

In regards to the Outlook usage. I think I've broken my Outlook
issues into two ... 1) occurs when I get a Windows delayed write
failure. While this generates a Windows error message, it doesn't
actually seem to cause any problems. 2) the PST file is corrupted.
Which if you follow [b:9315e2343a]dilettante's[/b:9315e2343a] notes
from above about the End of File (EOF) pointer in the file becoming
corrupt, that may be the source of the corrupted PST file. Tritton
has confirmed the EOF pointer corruption and also agreed that this
may be the cause of the PST file become corrupt. They believe a
firmware release to fix this is coming soon.

Lastly, as for the Netgear product (SC101), I've been watching for
this product since earlier this spring because pre-release notes on
Tom's Networking web site suggested it would have very fast data
transfer over ethernet (when compared to existing NAS units) and it
would be available in June. Well, I've watched for it all summer
and am just now I'm seeing it for sale at CDW and CircuitCity (in the
US). There is still no mention of the product on Netgear's US web
site, but their UK web site shows it as 'coming soon'. But, if you
dig deep enough, you can find the manual on the Netgear web site at:

Netgear Documentation . I'm going to wait and see what the
reviews have to say about its performance before I really consider it
.... I don't have the time to debug to NAS units right now.


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Default Re: ARGOSY - HD363N - Network Storage - 09-13-2005 , 11:38 AM






The Netgear produc is up on the site. They just released it yesterday
(Sept 12). It's just the enclosure, selling for about $115, but
everyone is already backordered. Looking into it, they are
backordered for a couple of weeks.

The only thing I see it's main advantage thus far is it's ability to
mirror. It also uses something called "Z-SAN Technology." This sounds
a bit proprietary like the Ximeta where you have to have software
loaded on your computer to work. Also, it would make the Netgear
product not a 'real' NAS...?

Some drawbacks I read from the spec sheet on it:

1) It requires a DHCP Server; cannot set it to a static...?
2) No SAMBA implementation--means Linux and Mac users cannot use it.


They also have a very WRONG comparision chart on their site. It states
you cannot a)Have a single drive NAS appear as a drive letter in My
Computer (ummm, YES--Mapping!), b) Cannot hide private data from
others (Tritton unit has password protected shares) c)Stream video
and music simultaneously (I do this with Tritton unit) d) Requires
certain HD manufacturers for drives (no requirement with Tritton
unit) e)Does not include backup software (Tritton does).

Of course, after I just read the above statements, there is a very
small line that they compare it to the Maxtor, Iomega, Buffalo, and
Linksys only.

I couldn't find the manual on their site, nor any support for it yet.

I dunno, it sounds like a proprietary product to me, and not very
configurable. I will wait for reviews as well.


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Default Re: ARGOSY - HD363N - Network Storage - 09-13-2005 , 05:32 PM



Quote:
fixuserwrote
Kane81
If I follow your notes correctly ... you are running a LANDISK wit
the Argosy 06-0804 firmware, is that correct? If so, I'm curiou
what happens to the 5 lights on the LANDISK, as the Tritton an
Argosy products only have 1 LED that serves multiple functions
Quote:
I dont know what you mean? my Landisk looks exactly like the Argosy i
only has one LED which can switch from green to red

Quote:
In regards to the Outlook usage. I think I've broken my Outloo
issues into two ... 1) occurs when I get a Windows delayed writ
failure. While this generates a Windows error message, it doesn'
actually seem to cause any problems. 2) the PST file is corrupted.
Which if you follow [b:382207a669]dilettante's[/b:382207a669] note
from above about the End of File (EOF) pointer in the file becomin
corrupt, that may be the source of the corrupted PST file. Tritto
has confirmed the EOF pointer corruption and also agreed that thi
may be the cause of the PST file become corrupt. They believe
firmware release to fix this is coming soon
Quote:
thus SAMBA is not implemented properl



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eds
 
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Default Re: ARGOSY - HD363N - Network Storage - 09-13-2005 , 08:32 PM



Quote:
Kane81wrote:
[quote:2666574f87="fixuser"]Kane81,
If I follow your notes correctly ... you are running a LANDISK with
the Argosy 06-0804 firmware, is that correct? If so, I'm curious
what happens to the 5 lights on the LANDISK, as the Tritton and
Argosy products only have 1 LED that serves multiple functions.
Quote:
I dont know what you mean? my Landisk looks exactly like the Argosy it
only has one LED which can switch from green to red.

Quote:
In regards to the Outlook usage. I think I've broken my Outlook
issues into two ... 1) occurs when I get a Windows delayed write
failure. While this generates a Windows error message, it doesn't
actually seem to cause any problems. 2) the PST file is corrupted.
Which if you follow [b:2666574f87]dilettante's[/b:2666574f87] notes
from above about the End of File (EOF) pointer in the file becoming
corrupt, that may be the source of the corrupted PST file. Tritton
has confirmed the EOF pointer corruption and also agreed that this
may be the cause of the PST file become corrupt. They believe a
firmware release to fix this is coming soon.
Quote:
thus SAMBA is not implemented properly[/quote:2666574f87]

Fixing this samba issue with new firmware could fix some of the xbmc
issues those of us with xboxes are having. :wink:



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fixuser
 
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Default Re: ARGOSY - HD363N - Network Storage - 09-13-2005 , 11:31 PM



Never mind my request for someone to verify the issue with movin
directories / multiple files from the NAS to a PC ... Tritton ha
verified the issue and continuing to look into root cause

Kane81
When you said you were using a Landisk, I assumed you were referrin
to either the Bytecc LANDISK (ME-850) or V-Gear LANDISK products.
These are products similar to the Tritton SimpleNAS and the Argos
HD363N, but yet having slightly different features. And, both o
those LANDISK products have 5 LEDs on their front panel. If yo
wish, you could revisit the information I posted about these product
earlier in this thread
NA
Listings. That's why I asked [b:c896f5b579]Irmat[/b:c896f5b579
if he/she would report back on the hardware in the Bytecc LANDISK.
Hopefully, that explains the nature of my question about the firmwar
and LEDs


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Kane81
 
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Default Re: ARGOSY - HD363N - Network Storage - 09-14-2005 , 07:33 AM



Well my webpage for the NAS use to say LanDisk, It had no brand only a
model number which was HD363N, I then tracked it down to Argosy.

This NAS had no branding on it, on the box, or the instruction.


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Default Re: ARGOSY - HD363N - Network Storage - 09-14-2005 , 10:31 PM



Quote:
fixuserwrote:
Never mind my request for someone to verify the issue with moving
directories / multiple files from the NAS to a PC ... Tritton has
verified the issue and continuing to look into root cause.
Sorry, been offline a few days or I'd have tried it. Looks like
things are moving forward with this though, which is great.

BTW: Do we think that the Argosy/Tritton device uses SAMBA at all? It
looks like a completely different CIFS/SMB implementation. Perhaps
people are using "SAMBA" when they mean to say "SMB" instead?

I'm not trying to be anal-retentive here, just trying to keep things
straight for myself. The Tritton manual (PDF at their site)
does mention "Samba server" so perhaps
they are using source from Samba?

Oh well, doesn't matter a whole lot anyway.

More than you wanted to know:
http://samba.anu.edu.au/cifs/docs/what-is-smb.html



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Default Re: ARGOSY - HD363N - Network Storage - 09-16-2005 , 03:31 PM



For anyone interested, Tom's Networking reviewed the
LaCie
Ethernet Disk mini , and has performance comparisons including
the Tritton SimpleNAS ... which compares well.

I'm still curious to see reviews of two other devices, the Western
Digital NetCenter and Netgear SC101. Not that I'm expecteing I'll
replace my Tritton/Argosy unit with either of these, just curious to
see their capabilities.


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Default Re: ARGOSY - HD363N - Network Storage - 09-19-2005 , 01:32 PM



------------------------------------------------------------------------------------
Fixuser wrote
I'm wondering if anyone would be willing to test/verify an issue I'
having with moving directories from the NAS to a PC. Tritton ha
tried some test cases on their own, but is not able to reproduce m
reported issue. Thus, I have given them the step-by-step outlin
below that is repeatable on my setup. Will someone be willing tr
this with the Tritton 06-0804 firmware (or the Argosy firmware of th
save version, I found the same problem with both firmwares)?
-------------------------------------------------------------------------------------

Although I haven't tried to reproduce your specific issue. I'v
encountered a similiar problem when trying to copy my MP3's off m
NAS onto my PC. After copying around a 1Gig of files, the transfe
hangs up. This is very irritating since I have a large mp
collection on my NAS (approx 80gig). Also I'm performing thi
operation over a wired network
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Sifter
 
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Default Re: ARGOSY - HD363N - Network Storage - 09-25-2005 , 03:32 AM



Any progress or updates on new firmware from either Argosy or Tritton


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