Re: Damn HP!!!

Bob Ward wrote:

On Thu, 3 Feb 2005 22:41:53 -0500, "Zamponia" <zamponiaNO (AT) SPAM (DOT) com
wrote:


OK so HP is no good.

Which printer can I buy which won't give me a problem with either refilling
a cart or using an off brand cart?




You'll have to settle for a hammer and chisel

That's about it.

The best luck I've had has been with Epson printers - they have four
(or six or eight) individual ink tanks, so it's easy to refill only
the color that's empty. Stratitec (www.stratitec.com) sells a kit at
Sam's club for $19.95 that will refill the six color print cartridges
approximately 12 times. They will also sell you an inexpensive tool
that allows you to reset the counter chip in each cartridge so the
printer knows that the tank is new again.

I don't intend to buy a color printer, but if I did, I would go for Epson,
From what I read, Epson pigment ink is a little more expensive than Canon's,
less than HP, and outlast both by many years.

The OP might want to take a look at this quick study I made of a paper from
Wilhelm Research:

<http://groups.google.com/groups?as_umsgid=10tplaqap3fll3d%40corp.supernews. com&lr=&hl=fr>

What you learn here is that HP's reviews are slanted: they compare with inks
that they know are inferior. (Bob Headrick didn't answer my reply to his message.)

As for Canon printers, they're good for the year they're on guarantee.
Afterwards, you'll face one of the bugs they implemented in the printer and,
of course, they won't give you the two lines you need to fix it in a matter of
seconds. And here, I speak from experience. OTOH, I don't know if Epson
behaves any differently. Seiko-Epson certainly used to have a reputation.

For monochrome printing, though, you can't beat an inexpensive laser
printer - especially if you don't print often enough to keep the
inkjet cartridges from drying out.

No doubt. And, from what I know now, I'd take a closer look at Samsung.

GP

As for Canon printers, they're good for the year they're on guarantee.
Afterwards, you'll face one of the bugs they implemented in the printer
and,
of course, they won't give you the two lines you need to fix it in a
matter of
seconds.

What are the bugs? I've been thinking of buying a new printer for awhile,
very possibly a Canon. That would be something consumers should know about.

Also, what are the "two lines" needed to fix it you referred to?

BW

"GP" <gilpel (AT) inverse (DOT) nretla.org> wrote

Bob Ward wrote:
On Thu, 3 Feb 2005 22:41:53 -0500, "Zamponia" <zamponiaNO (AT) SPAM (DOT) com
wrote:


OK so HP is no good.

Which printer can I buy which won't give me a problem with either
refilling
a cart or using an off brand cart?




You'll have to settle for a hammer and chisel

That's about it.

The best luck I've had has been with Epson printers - they have four
(or six or eight) individual ink tanks, so it's easy to refill only
the color that's empty. Stratitec (www.stratitec.com) sells a kit at
Sam's club for $19.95 that will refill the six color print cartridges
approximately 12 times. They will also sell you an inexpensive tool
that allows you to reset the counter chip in each cartridge so the
printer knows that the tank is new again.

I don't intend to buy a color printer, but if I did, I would go for Epson,
From what I read, Epson pigment ink is a little more expensive than
Canon's,
less than HP, and outlast both by many years.

The OP might want to take a look at this quick study I made of a paper
from
Wilhelm Research:


http://groups.google.com/groups?as_u...corp.supernews.

com&lr=&hl=fr>

What you learn here is that HP's reviews are slanted: they compare with
inks
that they know are inferior. (Bob Headrick didn't answer my reply to his
message.)

As for Canon printers, they're good for the year they're on guarantee.
Afterwards, you'll face one of the bugs they implemented in the printer
and,
of course, they won't give you the two lines you need to fix it in a
matter of
seconds. And here, I speak from experience. OTOH, I don't know if Epson
behaves any differently. Seiko-Epson certainly used to have a reputation.

For monochrome printing, though, you can't beat an inexpensive laser
printer - especially if you don't print often enough to keep the
inkjet cartridges from drying out.

No doubt. And, from what I know now, I'd take a closer look at Samsung.

GP