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Can Epson really do this?
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Re: Can Epson really do this? -
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measekite wrote: sherwindu wrote: Hi Art, Glad to hear some reinforcement of my complaints. I currently have the printer in a local shop. Perhaps my pads do need cleaning or replacement, but I was fooled by the Epson technician who told me only they had the means to reset this counter. I do recall trying this reset program in the past on my ink cartridges without any success. I eventually got around the problem with one of these battery operated small reset instruments. I could have been looking at a different reset program, or maybe my software linkup was not correct. In any case, the printer is in for repair, and I am awaiting a call with a cost estimate to fix it. Sherwin D. If you printed that much to require a pad replacement you might as well get a new printer. They are not much more than a set of ink. Yes, I agree. Ink costs almost as much as a new printer. Every time you buy a set of OEM cartridges you're almost better off just getting a whole new printer with a free set of ink. But that would be a terrible waste of money. I prefer to refill at home. |
usually do that) and take a risk on ruining your printer as well as not
being able to properly judge good photographic results and I also know
that you do not value your work so you do not care about longevity.
However, discerning people do.
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to refill all 5 cartridges. Why give the money away to someone in the business of overpricing ink when I can keep it myself and save for a new Lexus. :-) |
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-Taliesyn |
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| If you printed that much to require a pad replacement you might as well get a new printer. They are not much more than a set of ink. |
transparancies. I would not trust buying
a used one. The pad replacement came more from cleaning cycles than actual
printing.
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Taliesyn wrote: measekite wrote: sherwindu wrote: Hi Art, Glad to hear some reinforcement of my complaints. I currently have the printer in a local shop. Perhaps my pads do need cleaning or replacement, but I was fooled by the Epson technician who told me only they had the means to reset this counter. I do recall trying this reset program in the past on my ink cartridges without any success. I eventually got around the problem with one of these battery operated small reset instruments. I could have been looking at a different reset program, or maybe my software linkup was not correct. In any case, the printer is in for repair, and I am awaiting a call with a cost estimate to fix it. Sherwin D. If you printed that much to require a pad replacement you might as well get a new printer. They are not much more than a set of ink. Yes, I agree. Ink costs almost as much as a new printer. Every time you buy a set of OEM cartridges you're almost better off just getting a whole new printer with a free set of ink. But that would be a terrible waste of money. I prefer to refill at home. Yes I know that you prefer to waste a lot of time (of course kids usually do that) and take a risk on ruining your printer as well as not being able to properly judge good photographic results and I also know that you do not value your work so you do not care about longevity. However, discerning people do. |
you have to choose a good supplier. I also refill my own cartridges and
have gotten excellent results for many years. My problem is that I sometimes
wait too long between color usage and those color passageways dry out,
hence all my cleaning cycles. Espson ink would do the same thing. The
longevity of printing is a function of the type of ink. My Epson RX500 does
not use the archival ink, but I'm sure my pictures will long outlive me.
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Costs me $5 CAD All you care about is cost so for you thats ok. to refill all 5 cartridges. Why give the money away to someone in the business of overpricing ink when I can keep it myself and save for a new Lexus. :-) Saving money on ink will not even get you a used VW. -Taliesyn |
Sherwin D.
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| measekite wrote: Taliesyn wrote: measekite wrote: sherwindu wrote: (snip) There are many misconceptions about third party ink. Like anything else, you have to choose a good supplier. I also refill my own cartridges and have gotten excellent results for many years. |
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Wow, you seem to have money to burn. Why not send me some. Sherwin D. Sherwin - You've just met our resident troll, Measekite. He continually |
therefore speaks strictly from his jaundiced, distorted, pathological bias.
Most of us have him killfiled and only see his nonsense when someone like
you tries to respond reasonably and includes his posts in your response. If
you really want to waste your time responding, at least delete his
distortions and lies. Better yet, spend the time refilling a few more carts
(like many of us here do) and just killfile him!
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The Epson rep told me I had probably exceeded the counter on the allowed cleaning and power up/down cycles, and Epson is demanding I send it in for service before I can continue to use the printer. Unbelievable! It's like having a mileage counter on your car suddenly shut it down and forcing you to tow it to your dealer for maintenance. |
Should they get away with it? Hell NO!
What lets them get away with something they shouldn't? Aggressively
cheap hardware prices being supported by excessively high consumable
prices.
What is the solution? Well there are a few options. The first is the
usual Usenet cry of "class action lawsuit" which has only once been
focussed enough to make Epson act (the orange plague fiasco). The
second is mass consumer economics. Buy Epson printers, use 3rd party
inks exclusively and dump their hardware when these fake lockouts
appear.
You are funding Epson profits when you buy their ink. Epson are funding
YOU to buy their printer. Exploit that business model to YOUR
advantage.
Nothing makes big business react faster than hitting their bottom line.
You can buy Canon or HP and hit Epson's bottom line once as a lost
customer, or you can buy many Epson printers and none of their ink,
hitting that bottom line harder to the value of many lost customers.
The more users who do this the more Epson will lose money and the
quicker they will change their policy of blocking printer use.
Unfortunately most consumers don't have the patience, and junk Epson for
other manufacturers when they could have a much bigger impact on Epson
corporate policy by just shifting to a new ink vendor and buying another
Epson printer. Human nature, but it doesn't hurt Epson as much as an
active consumer reaction would.
--
Kennedy
Yes, Socrates himself is particularly missed;
A lovely little thinker, but a bugger when he's pissed.
Python Philosophers (replace 'nospam' with 'kennedym' when replying)
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In article <46429D93.1966A452 (AT) comcast (DOT) net>, sherwindu sherwindu (AT) comcast (DOT) net> writes The Epson rep told me I had probably exceeded the counter on the allowed cleaning and power up/down cycles, and Epson is demanding I send it in for service before I can continue to use the printer. Unbelievable! It's like having a mileage counter on your car suddenly shut it down and forcing you to tow it to your dealer for maintenance. Can they get away with this garbage? Yes. Should they get away with it? Hell NO! What lets them get away with something they shouldn't? Aggressively cheap hardware prices being supported by excessively high consumable prices. What is the solution? Well there are a few options. The first is the usual Usenet cry of "class action lawsuit" which has only once been focussed enough to make Epson act (the orange plague fiasco). The second is mass consumer economics. Buy Epson printers, use 3rd party inks exclusively |
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and dump their hardware when these fake lockouts appear. You are funding Epson profits when you buy their ink. Epson are funding YOU to buy their printer. Exploit that business model to YOUR advantage. Nothing makes big business react faster than hitting their bottom line. You can buy Canon |
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or HP and hit Epson's bottom line once as a lost customer, or you can buy many Epson printers and none of their ink, hitting that bottom line harder to the value of many lost customers. The more users who do this the more Epson will lose money and the quicker they will change their policy of blocking printer use. Unfortunately most consumers don't have the patience, and junk Epson for other manufacturers when they could have a much bigger impact on Epson corporate policy by just shifting to a new ink vendor Who needs inferior ink and to support unprofessional relabelers and buying another Epson printer. Human nature, but it doesn't hurt Epson as much as an active consumer reaction would. |
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I couldn't agree more. Good luck. sherwindu <sherwindu (AT) comcast (DOT) net> wrote: Hi Tony, Thanks for the information. As far as Epson, a simple warning message would suffice. |
cabinet!
I just wish printer makers would make it easy to change the waste ink
bucket.
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Yes I know that you prefer to waste a lot of time (of course kids usually do that) and take a risk on ruining your printer as well as not being able to properly judge good photographic results and I also know that you do not value your work so you do not care about longevity. However, discerning people do. |
SECOND printer. They run one printer on OEM ink and the other on bargin
basement ink. One printer is used for draft, unimportant documents and the
other for presentation work. You get quality AND you save a bundle.
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"measekite" <inkystinky (AT) oem (DOT) com> wrote in message news:08O0i.2062$UU.2006 (AT) newssvr19 (DOT) news.prodigy.net... Yes I know that you prefer to waste a lot of time (of course kids usually do that) and take a risk on ruining your printer as well as not being able to properly judge good photographic results and I also know that you do not value your work so you do not care about longevity. However, discerning people do. Discerning people use the money they save with third party ink to buy a SECOND printer. They run one printer on OEM ink and the other on bargin basement ink. One printer is used for draft, unimportant documents and the other for presentation work. You get quality AND you save a bundle. |
documents and just use a colour inkjet when high quality photo prints are
required.
Ivor
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