In article <a66bs057hjelok9kjsen4emkdukjeqda0a (AT) 4ax (DOT) com>, dingo (AT) privacy (DOT) com
(PJX) wrote:

Even with a UV coating, I doubt that any desktop printer inks would
survive for very long on a window sticker. You'd need to use a printer
that can take solvent-based inks. They tend to be quite large (the
smallest I've seen being about the size of Epson's largest printer),
expensive and have to have an internal or external filtering/ventilation
system to handle the fumes from the ink.

Jon.

Well, I won't go that far. It may be a great product (or not) but the
reviews and promotion appear to be coming from either one person using
different emails, or a group of people with similar intent, and not just
on this group, but on several.

I certainly don't mind, in fact, I like it, when people unassociated
with a company give their honest review of a new product they have used.
But when it begins to look like an advertising campaign with "plants",
then I begin to wonder about the company.

After all, good products flourish by word of mouth by legitimate users
of a product. I just want people to be aware that, since I frequent a
number of printer lists, I have begun to notice this pattern that my
intuition says "something doesn't add up here". At least then they can
seek out other sources for reviews, and perhaps protect themselves from
what may be illegitimate reviews.

Art


Bob Headrick wrote:

and no sign of them coming back to make comments on this either.

Chris

Dear Sir/Madam,

We are sorry for thsese spam. We have no control with our 3rd party
marketing companies. But already told them to stop this adv.

Again, we apologize for this mess. You all have great holidays.
InkRepublic.com
http://www.InkRepublic.com
info (AT) InkRepublic (DOT) com

I want to make a comment about this issue, since I was in part
responsible for making Ink Republic aware of this problem.

Ink Republic contacted me privately recently in an attempt to be helpful
regarding a request I put out on another list. It had nothing to do
with either 3rd party inks nor CISs.

As a result of that opportunity, I informed them of the amount of
Trolling that was going on on behalf of their company and products in
several of the printing and imaging groups.

They were very fast to respond and expressed some concern, because they
informed me they had received several recent comment from some of the
people visiting their website that those people had been lead their from
postings on several newsgroups and lists. Some of the comments were
apparently positive (about their product, etc) and some were negative
(about the nature of the advertising disguised as mini-reviews, etc.)

I wrote them suggesting that IMHO, this was not helpful to their cause
and they should stop using this type of advertising.

Ink Republic indicated to me that they are mainly a wholesaler, although
they are beginning to consider direct sales, but upon checking into my
comments, they were quite surprised and disappointed at the amount of
this trolling which was going on, and that they had not sanctioned it,
and it was from 3rd party agents that sell their products, and they have
since asked them to please stop doing so.

Ink Republic appears to seriously want to do the right thing, and it
would appear they have been able to somewhat rein in the people involved.

I obviously have no affiliation with the company, and can only state
that the CIS design looks like a progressive step in the right
direction, in that they use ink dampers rather than a converted
cartridge which eliminates the sponge or batting, makes the full ink
supply system visible (the dampers I believe (if the pictures are
showing the production model, clear). Basically, the design is similar
to what Epson themselves use in their large cartridge/carriage printers,
and those tend to work well.

As I have mentioned in other groups, the other side of the CIS issue is
using a collapsible ink sack which works like an IV bag. This
eliminates almost all air to ink contact, and also allows for very even
ink flow. The first company that starts selling their inks in this
fashion, especially for pigment inks, will be truly giving Epson a run
for their money. Some 3rd party large format cartridges are already
designed this way, and could easily be used.

Anyway, I just wanted to explain that it would appear Ink Republic is
trying to do the right thing here, and that as soon as they were made
aware of the problem, they acted upon it as best they could.

I will wait to here more reports about the product itself, hopefully
from some legitimate users.


Art


InkRepublic.com wrote:

I spend a lot of time on this forum and others dealing with inkjet
printers, mostly to read and learn from other users. After reading
this thread, I just had to respond.

We do a lot of printing and because of the high cost of using epson
cartridges, we buy generic cartridges. On average I do a clean print
head at least once for each cartridge, sometimes 3 to 5 times (imagine
the ink wasted) for every cartridge I put into our printers (We have 5
printers, all epson). Because of the problems with these cartridges, I
wanted to try a CIS system and knowing that you get what you pay for,
I chose the system from Ink Republic. This is the only system I've
tried, so I don't pretend to know what is good and what is not.
However, in my opinion, Ink Republics system is amazing. Since
installing the system, and so far going through 3 cartridges worth of
ink, I've had absolutly no problems with print quality at all. With
the single cartridges I was constantly having banding problems from
either clogged print nozzels or air in the nozzels. With Ink
Republic's system I have had perfect prints (I'm talking about high
resolution photographs).

The only problems I had were with the first chip set which they
replaced within a couple of days. I also had to do a slight
modification to their installation instructions and do a good cleaning
of the print head (to remove the gunk from the single cartridges).

I plan on installing this system on 2 more of our printers soon.

I have mainly heard positive experiences from people who have installed
Ink Republic CIS units. From studying their design, I am impressed with
the approach they have taken, and it does make good sense. The company
seems to be quite responsive to customer needs and issues if and when
they do come up.

I cannot comment on their inks, but some people like them.

They did have some glitches in the system earlier with language and
instruction manaual, but a lot of that seems to have also been resolved
for the North American market, at least.

Considering the number of complaints and issues I had reported to me
regarding other brand of CIS, I thin kInk Republic has created a
reasonably priced solution for those trying to use lower cost bulk inks.

Art

DPeterson wrote:

Can someone tell me ....

who makes the bottles used in the Ink Rebublic system .... is there a
marking on the bottom ?

Thanks


"DPeterson" <no (AT) spam (DOT) invalid> wrote

I do not know of any relabler that will properly dislcose anything.

Wayne wrote: