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Default Does anyone refill colour lasers? - 03-27-2007 , 08:21 AM






Hear plenty about at refilling inkjets but does anyone have good or bad
experience refilling colour lasers?
Ken



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Default Re: Does anyone refill colour lasers? - 03-27-2007 , 03:32 PM







"Ken" <Reply to NG only> wrote

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Hear plenty about at refilling inkjets but does anyone
have good or bad experience refilling colour lasers?
Ken
I've heard of it being done, but I for one am not about to bugger up a
£400 printer to "save" money.

Ivor




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Default Re: Does anyone refill colour lasers? - 03-27-2007 , 03:46 PM



"Ken" <Reply to NG only> wrote:
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Hear plenty about at refilling inkjets but does anyone have good or bad
experience refilling colour lasers?
Ken
Plenty of people successfully do it.
Like inkjet cartrdiges, some are easy and some are tricky and there are some
imperatives like emptying the waste toner compartment (on most cartridges) and
often parts need to be replaced as well as the toner.
You would need to research the printer model you have, or plan to buy, because
of the huge differences between manufacturers and models.
Tony
MS MVP Printing/Imaging



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Default Re: Does anyone refill colour lasers? - 03-28-2007 , 04:43 PM



On Mar 27, 2:46 pm, Tony <TonytheTigurr... (AT) aim (DOT) com> wrote:
Quote:
"Ken" <Reply to NG only> wrote:

Hear plenty about at refilling inkjets but does anyone have good or bad
experience refilling colour lasers?
Ken

Plenty of people successfully do it.
Like inkjet cartrdiges, some are easy and some are tricky and there are some
imperatives like emptying the waste toner compartment (on most cartridges) and
often parts need to be replaced as well as the toner.
You would need to research the printer model you have, or plan to buy, because
of the huge differences between manufacturers and models.
Tony
MS MVP Printing/Imaging
I've toyed with the idea of moving up to a laser myself, but it's the
complication of those "other parts" that has bothered me. Parts are
not cheap or available on every corner either. I'd need to have other
backup printers. The thought of a solid ink printer is appealing too,
but similar issues come into play. Would you care to comment on the
solid ink devices?



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Default Re: Does anyone refill colour lasers? - 03-28-2007 , 09:25 PM



On Mar 27, 7:21 am, "Ken" <Reply to NG only> wrote:
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Hear plenty about at refilling inkjets but does anyone have good or bad
experience refilling colour lasers?
Ken
I will tell you what i tell all of my customers. use only the toners
that are made for your printer. The printer is calibrated for for
that toner.

1. Aftermarket/refurbished toner is a low grade toner and wont give
you the color reproduction.

2. The Image drums on Aftermarket/refurbished are not always replaced
when they are recycled. They don't last forever.

3. used cartridges leak and in the least cause a mess but can cause
serious and sometimes irreparable damage.

That said, use the toner that you want to.

60% of my color laser repair jobs involve aftermarket/refurbished
toner cartridges.



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Default Re: Does anyone refill colour lasers? - 03-29-2007 , 12:35 AM





linuxcoupe (AT) gmail (DOT) com wrote:
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On Mar 27, 7:21 am, "Ken" <Reply to NG only> wrote:

Hear plenty about at refilling inkjets but does anyone have good or bad
experience refilling colour lasers?
Ken


I will tell you what i tell all of my customers. use only the toners
that are made for your printer. The printer is calibrated for for
that toner.

1. Aftermarket/refurbished toner is a low grade toner and wont give
you the color reproduction.

2. The Image drums on Aftermarket/refurbished are not always replaced
when they are recycled. They don't last forever.

3. used cartridges leak and in the least cause a mess but can cause
serious and sometimes irreparable damage.

That said, use the toner that you want to.

60% of my color laser repair jobs involve aftermarket/refurbished
toner cartridges.


Oh Yeah and also do not partronize the ink relabelers either. Also poor
color reproduction, messy and leaky carts, more rapid fading and a
possible clogged printhead that ruins the printer. Did I forget lower
quality photos.


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Default Re: Does anyone refill colour lasers? - 03-29-2007 , 03:12 AM



"Al Bundy" <MSfortune (AT) mcpmail (DOT) com> wrote:
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On Mar 27, 2:46 pm, Tony <TonytheTigurr... (AT) aim (DOT) com> wrote:
"Ken" <Reply to NG only> wrote:

Hear plenty about at refilling inkjets but does anyone have good or bad
experience refilling colour lasers?
Ken

Plenty of people successfully do it.
Like inkjet cartrdiges, some are easy and some are tricky and there are some
imperatives like emptying the waste toner compartment (on most cartridges)
and
often parts need to be replaced as well as the toner.
You would need to research the printer model you have, or plan to buy,
because
of the huge differences between manufacturers and models.
Tony
MS MVP Printing/Imaging

I've toyed with the idea of moving up to a laser myself, but it's the
complication of those "other parts" that has bothered me. Parts are
not cheap or available on every corner either. I'd need to have other
backup printers. The thought of a solid ink printer is appealing too,
but similar issues come into play. Would you care to comment on the
solid ink devices?
I would love to but sad to say I have absolutely no direct experience of solid
ink printers, so I will keep quiet.
Good luck.
Tony
MS MVP Printing/Imaging



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Nicolaas Hawkins
 
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Default Re: Does anyone refill colour lasers? - 03-29-2007 , 03:54 AM



On Thu, 29 Mar 2007 04:35:08 GMT, measekite <inkystinky (AT) oem (DOT) com> wrote in
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linuxcoupe (AT) gmail (DOT) com wrote:
On Mar 27, 7:21 am, "Ken" <Reply to NG only> wrote:

Hear plenty about at refilling inkjets but does anyone have good or bad
experience refilling colour lasers?
Ken


I will tell you what i tell all of my customers. use only the toners
that are made for your printer. The printer is calibrated for for
that toner.

1. Aftermarket/refurbished toner is a low grade toner and wont give
you the color reproduction.

2. The Image drums on Aftermarket/refurbished are not always replaced
when they are recycled. They don't last forever.

3. used cartridges leak and in the least cause a mess but can cause
serious and sometimes irreparable damage.

That said, use the toner that you want to.

60% of my color laser repair jobs involve aftermarket/refurbished
toner cartridges.


Oh Yeah and also do not partronize the ink relabelers either. Also poor
color reproduction, messy and leaky carts, more rapid fading and a
possible clogged printhead that ruins the printer. Did I forget lower
quality photos.
Put what little brain you have in gear before allowing your knees to jerk,
dickless. The MAN is talking about laser printer refills.


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Arthur Entlich
 
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Default Re: Does anyone refill colour lasers? - 03-29-2007 , 07:37 AM



The solid ink, or wax based printers have some positives and negatives,
depending upon your needs.

The cost per print is very competitive. The amount of e-waste produced
is quite low, since there aren't any toner or inkjet cartridges. The
main consumable is the waxy ink itself. The quality is constantly
improving and comes close to a color laser. They have sped them up
quite a bit, but they are still relatively noisy. They need to be kept
on all the time to make best use of ink, which is purged if the system
cools down too much from being off. They can print on most print
surfaces, even colored ones, without losing the color completely.

The deep sleep mode, however, is low wattage.

The other consumables aren't needed for a relatively long time, aren't
many and aren't an arm and a leg.

The negatives are, the ink is still not as well fade resistance as high
quality inks can be. The color rendition is not quite as good as laser,
the inks are waxy feeling and can chip off paper iron very cold weather.
Laminations probably not a good option, since the ink can melt during a
hot mounting or lamination.

Art




Al Bunny wrote:

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On Mar 27, 2:46 pm, Tony <TonytheTigurr... (AT) aim (DOT) com> wrote:

"Ken" <Reply to NG only> wrote:


Hear plenty about at refilling inkjets but does anyone have good or bad
experience refilling colour lasers?
Ken

Plenty of people successfully do it.
Like inkjet cartrdiges, some are easy and some are tricky and there are some
imperatives like emptying the waste toner compartment (on most cartridges) and
often parts need to be replaced as well as the toner.
You would need to research the printer model you have, or plan to buy, because
of the huge differences between manufacturers and models.
Tony
MS MVP Printing/Imaging


I've toyed with the idea of moving up to a laser myself, but it's the
complication of those "other parts" that has bothered me. Parts are
not cheap or available on every corner either. I'd need to have other
backup printers. The thought of a solid ink printer is appealing too,
but similar issues come into play. Would you care to comment on the
solid ink devices?


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Al Bundy
 
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Default Re: Does anyone refill colour lasers? - 03-29-2007 , 09:01 AM



On Mar 29, 6:37 am, Arthur Entlich <e-printerh... (AT) mvps (DOT) org> wrote:
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The solid ink, or wax based printers have some positives and negatives,
depending upon your needs.
Thanks for that information Arthur.



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