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Why no 8 x 12 Photo Paper
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Re: Why no 8 x 12 Photo Paper -
05-20-2007
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"Frank Arthur" <Art (AT) Arthurian (DOT) com> wrote in message news:sgG3i.469$KC4.339 (AT) bignews6 (DOT) bellsouth.net... Why can't you buy 8 x 12 inch Photo Paper for Epson or HP Printers? 35mm Film Cameras and Digital Cameras use the 2:3 proportions so they would fit 8 x 12 paper yet none is available. Anyone know why? Probably because 8x12 isn't a standard size in the US - picture frames are commonly available as 8x10. Try to find a 1 hour photo printer that will do an 8x12. |
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Used to be in the old days when 4:5 proportions were common. Since 35mm later digital use all produce 2:3 proportions. How can you put a 2:3 image in a 4:5 paper. |
around - at least as long as 35mm film which is also a 2:3 ratio!
Mark
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Frank Arthur wrote: Why can't you buy 8 x 12 inch Photo Paper for Epson or HP Printers? 35mm Film Cameras and Digital Cameras use the 2:3 proportions so they would fit 8 x 12 paper yet none is available. Anyone know why? 13x9 is more what you'd want to print your 8x12 on anyway (for framing).... -And that's the REAL question... -----Why in H-E-C-K(!!!!!) is it so freaking impossible to buy frames for the 3:2 ratio!!!!!!!?????? I would have thought that after a zillion years of 35mm...and the huge adoption of 3:2 DSLR ...that somebody...somewhere...would start selling frames for the ratio. Instead, we have a glut of everything but 3:2. Drives me crazy. |
Michael's for next to nothing.
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In article <EbQ3i.392031$6P2.155415 (AT) newsfe16 (DOT) phx>, "MarkČ" <mjmorgan(lowest even number here)@cox..net> wrote: Frank Arthur wrote: Why can't you buy 8 x 12 inch Photo Paper for Epson or HP Printers? 35mm Film Cameras and Digital Cameras use the 2:3 proportions so they would fit 8 x 12 paper yet none is available. Anyone know why? 13x9 is more what you'd want to print your 8x12 on anyway (for framing).... -And that's the REAL question... -----Why in H-E-C-K(!!!!!) is it so freaking impossible to buy frames for the 3:2 ratio!!!!!!!?????? I would have thought that after a zillion years of 35mm...and the huge adoption of 3:2 DSLR ...that somebody...somewhere...would start selling frames for the ratio. Instead, we have a glut of everything but 3:2. Drives me crazy. I print on 13x19 paper, trim it to 12x18 and mount it in frames I buy at Michael's for next to nothing. |
and 16x20 have been photo standards forever. What's with 11x14?
I just crop my photos or trim the prints to get whatever size I want
that also is correct for the image. A lot of the time I am printing
8x10 on 8.5x11. I also print 12x15-18 on 13x19. 4x6 is good for
snap-shots even though the natural image is 4.5x6 under the 4:3 standard.
I suspect, no matter what you want to do, there will NOT be a properly
sized paper to do it in some size or another.
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Robert B. Peirce, Venetia, PA 724-941-6883
bob AT peirce-family.com [Mac]
rbp AT cooksonpeirce.com [Office]
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In article <bob-382A02.21014320052007 (AT) news (DOT) verizon.net>, Robert Peirce <bob (AT) peirce-family (DOT) com.invalid> wrote: In article <EbQ3i.392031$6P2.155415 (AT) newsfe16 (DOT) phx>, "MarkČ" <mjmorgan(lowest even number here)@cox..net> wrote: Frank Arthur wrote: Why can't you buy 8 x 12 inch Photo Paper for Epson or HP Printers? 35mm Film Cameras and Digital Cameras use the 2:3 proportions so they would fit 8 x 12 paper yet none is available. Anyone know why? 13x9 is more what you'd want to print your 8x12 on anyway (for framing).... -And that's the REAL question... -----Why in H-E-C-K(!!!!!) is it so freaking impossible to buy frames for the 3:2 ratio!!!!!!!?????? I would have thought that after a zillion years of 35mm...and the huge adoption of 3:2 DSLR ...that somebody...somewhere...would start selling frames for the ratio. Instead, we have a glut of everything but 3:2. Drives me crazy. I print on 13x19 paper, trim it to 12x18 and mount it in frames I buy at Michael's for next to nothing. Oops!! That was actually 12x16. I just measured it. OTOH, 8x10, 11x14 and 16x20 have been photo standards forever. What's with 11x14? I just crop my photos or trim the prints to get whatever size I want that also is correct for the image. A lot of the time I am printing 8x10 on 8.5x11. I also print 12x15-18 on 13x19. 4x6 is good for snap-shots even though the natural image is 4.5x6 under the 4:3 standard. I suspect, no matter what you want to do, there will NOT be a properly sized paper to do it in some size or another. |
Anyone got a recommendation for a decent, inexpensive , paper trimmer?
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In article <bob-382A02.21014320052007 (AT) news (DOT) verizon.net>, Robert Peirce <bob (AT) peirce-family (DOT) com.invalid> wrote: In article <EbQ3i.392031$6P2.155415 (AT) newsfe16 (DOT) phx>, "MarkČ" <mjmorgan(lowest even number here)@cox..net> wrote: Frank Arthur wrote: Why can't you buy 8 x 12 inch Photo Paper for Epson or HP Printers? 35mm Film Cameras and Digital Cameras use the 2:3 proportions so they would fit 8 x 12 paper yet none is available. Anyone know why? 13x9 is more what you'd want to print your 8x12 on anyway (for framing).... -And that's the REAL question... -----Why in H-E-C-K(!!!!!) is it so freaking impossible to buy frames for the 3:2 ratio!!!!!!!?????? I would have thought that after a zillion years of 35mm...and the huge adoption of 3:2 DSLR ...that somebody...somewhere...would start selling frames for the ratio. Instead, we have a glut of everything but 3:2. Drives me crazy. I print on 13x19 paper, trim it to 12x18 and mount it in frames I buy at Michael's for next to nothing. Oops!! That was actually 12x16. I just measured it. OTOH, 8x10, 11x14 and 16x20 have been photo standards forever. What's with 11x14? |
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I print on 13x19 paper, trim it to 12x18 and mount it in frames I buy at Michael's for next to nothing. |
11.7x16.5 and is usually close enough to 12x16 for most
uses.
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Oops!! That was actually 12x16. I just measured it. OTOH, 8x10, 11x14 and 16x20 have been photo standards forever. What's with 11x14? And 5x7? And 3.5x5, which was the standard before 4x6 came along. |
Ilford, Inkpress and Moab sell 5x7 photo paper. Museo has several
unusual paper sizes (they include matching envelopes) - 4.5x5,
4.5x6, 5.5x7.5 and 3.8x9.1 for panoramas. Epson also has a
heavyweight 4.1x5.8 size photo paper that's printable on both sides,
used for postcards and invitations. HP has an odd 4x12 photo paper
that might delight photo stitchers for their landscape and
architectural shots.
See below for 3.5x5.In addition to their dedicated 4x6 printers, Hi-Touch has several
affordable 700 series dye-sub models that print three sizes, 4x6,
5x7 and 6x8. B&H sells these as well as the paper and YMCO ribbon
kits that they use.
There are also a number of much more expensive printers not
intended for home use in B&H's catalog. Prices are $1550 (Sony,
3.5x5, 4x6, 5x7), $2650 (Kodak, 4x6, 5x7, 6x8), $2996 (Kodak, 8x10,
8x12), $2750 (Fuji, 4x6, 5x7, 6x8, 6x9), $3995 (8x10, 8x12).
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Where would you crop these photos? . . . I don't want to...because I utilize the entire frame. Who wants to waste pixels? |
forces all possible pixels into a fixed frame size probably often
creates less than the best possible compositions. What if Canon
upgraded their 5D to a Super SixD, having a 20mp, 36mm x 36mm
sensor? Would you then, in order to avoid wasting pixels, make only
square prints? Or would you take advantage of the extra pixels,
using judicious cropping to not only produce better compositions,
but to compensate for less than perfect framing. Handheld shots
can't match the framing accuracy that a tripod allows.
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Oh well... Despite my whining...clueless frame manufacturers continue... |
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FWIW, Red River has paper in a wide range of sizes, but no 8x12. Was the OP talking about 8.5x11? They have that. You wouldn't lose that much using 8.5x14. http://www.redrivercatalog.com/shopbypapersize.html |
around the 8x12 to mount it with and not cover any of the printed area
with the matt.
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