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Alan Browne
 
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Default 9000 ED ordered - 11-28-2006 , 09:32 PM






Finally ordered the 9000ED.

Canadian prices finally entered a "sensible" zone, so a little more than
the US B&H price, but less than the Nikon CDN list price...

I look forward to it as I have nearly 20 rolls of pristine 120 Velvia
and 100G to scan and more to come...

So? VueScan or Nikon software?

Cheers,
Alan
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David J. Littleboy
 
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Default Re: 9000 ED ordered - 11-28-2006 , 09:40 PM






"Alan Browne" <alan.browne (AT) Freelunchvideotron (DOT) ca> wrote:
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I look forward to it as I have nearly 20 rolls of pristine 120 Velvia and
100G to scan and more to come...

So? VueScan or Nikon software?
I found the Nikon software fine _for slide films_. I couldn't persuade it to
scan negative films without clipping some of the range. The newer versions
of the Nikon software are said to be better for negative materials, but be
prepared to need Vuescan. There are heroic measures you can take to scan
negatives as positives and invert _in NikonScan_. They've been described
here before.

The 8000/9000 do a thumbnail scan of the two to four frames in the holder,
but Vuescan doesn't support that, so you have to specify the areas to scan
manually. Sort of a pain.

I claim that it's worthwhile to be increadibly picayune about getting your
film perfectly flat across the whole frame with the 8000/9000. Rafe thinks
I'm nuts. Your mileage will vary.

David J. Littleboy
Tokyo, Japan




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Raphael Bustin
 
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Default Re: 9000 ED ordered - 11-28-2006 , 10:56 PM



On Wed, 29 Nov 2006 11:40:59 +0900, "David J. Littleboy"
<davidjl (AT) gol (DOT) com> wrote:


Quote:
I found the Nikon software fine _for slide films_. I couldn't persuade it to
scan negative films without clipping some of the range. The newer versions
of the Nikon software are said to be better for negative materials, but be
prepared to need Vuescan. There are heroic measures you can take to scan
negatives as positives and invert _in NikonScan_. They've been described
here before.

No need to exaggerate, David. Hardly "heroic"
or else I'm a hero. Adds about 15 seconds to
the scan setup.

In any case, I'm told these measures aren't
needed on the 9000.


rafe b
www.terrapinphoto.com


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Philip Homburg
 
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Default Re: 9000 ED ordered - 11-29-2006 , 10:14 AM



In article <421qm2tirncgd22h5ck1738dohuhlfaupe (AT) 4ax (DOT) com>,
Raphael Bustin <rafeb (AT) speakeasy (DOT) net> wrote:
Quote:
On Wed, 29 Nov 2006 11:40:59 +0900, "David J. Littleboy"
davidjl (AT) gol (DOT) com> wrote:


I found the Nikon software fine _for slide films_. I couldn't persuade it to
scan negative films without clipping some of the range. The newer versions
of the Nikon software are said to be better for negative materials, but be
prepared to need Vuescan. There are heroic measures you can take to scan
negatives as positives and invert _in NikonScan_. They've been described
here before.


No need to exaggerate, David. Hardly "heroic"
or else I'm a hero. Adds about 15 seconds to
the scan setup.
I invert in Photoshop, which doesn't take any time. I need levels for
color balance and contrast anyhow.

I also use the analog gain in NikonScan to remove the orange mask.

The main problem I have (with the LS-4000) is that NikonScan doesn't
recognize the frame boundaries when I scan negatives as slides.


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Alan Browne
 
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Default Re: 9000 ED ordered - 11-29-2006 , 08:01 PM



David J. Littleboy wrote:
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"Alan Browne" <alan.browne (AT) Freelunchvideotron (DOT) ca> wrote:

I look forward to it as I have nearly 20 rolls of pristine 120 Velvia and
100G to scan and more to come...

So? VueScan or Nikon software?


I found the Nikon software fine _for slide films_. I couldn't persuade it to
scan negative films without clipping some of the range. The newer versions
90% of the use will be slide. I'm prepared to use VueScan for negatives
if required.

Quote:
of the Nikon software are said to be better for negative materials, but be
prepared to need Vuescan. There are heroic measures you can take to scan
negatives as positives and invert _in NikonScan_. They've been described
here before.
Heroic is the word. Or pain-in-the-ass, in any case.


Quote:
The 8000/9000 do a thumbnail scan of the two to four frames in the holder,
but Vuescan doesn't support that, so you have to specify the areas to scan
manually. Sort of a pain.
IIRC (I haven't used VueScan in a long time) you could save scan "areas"
for future use. (Confused maybe).

Quote:
I claim that it's worthwhile to be increadibly picayune about getting your
film perfectly flat across the whole frame with the 8000/9000. Rafe thinks
I'm nuts. Your mileage will vary.
That is a concern for me. I want to get the glass film holder as well.
It seems to be out-of-stock everywhere.

Cheers,
Alan


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Stewart
 
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Default Re: 9000 ED ordered - 11-30-2006 , 04:08 AM



Alan Browne wrote:
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Finally ordered the 9000ED.

So? VueScan or Nikon software?

I upgraded to the 9000ED from a Canon FS4000. Vuescan was a lot better
than the Canon software. Being already familiar with Vuescan, I was
happy to keep using it on the 9000, and I get somewhat better results
with it than with the Nikon software. Not spectacularly better, though.

Vuescan took a bit of learning but now I am familiar with it I
appreciate the greater control it gives me.



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Default Re: 9000 ED ordered - 12-01-2006 , 01:22 PM



This seems like an appropriate place to ask (again).
Has anyone heard anything about whether Nikon will continue to develop
this series of scanners or are the 5000ED and 9000ED the end of the
line?

Thanks


Stewart wrote:
Quote:
Alan Browne wrote:
Finally ordered the 9000ED.

So? VueScan or Nikon software?


I upgraded to the 9000ED from a Canon FS4000. Vuescan was a lot better
than the Canon software. Being already familiar with Vuescan, I was
happy to keep using it on the 9000, and I get somewhat better results
with it than with the Nikon software. Not spectacularly better, though.

Vuescan took a bit of learning but now I am familiar with it I
appreciate the greater control it gives me.


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rafe b
 
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Default Re: 9000 ED ordered - 12-01-2006 , 01:31 PM




"W" <winhag (AT) yahoo (DOT) com> wrote


Quote:
This seems like an appropriate place to ask (again).
Has anyone heard anything about whether Nikon will continue to develop
this series of scanners or are the 5000ED and 9000ED the end of the
line?

I wish I could answer but I'm locked up in this
tower and some (*%& hobbit just made off with
my crystal ball.


rafe b
www.terrapinphoto.com




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Alan Browne
 
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Default Re: 9000 ED ordered - 12-02-2006 , 05:58 PM



W wrote:
Quote:
This seems like an appropriate place to ask (again).
Has anyone heard anything about whether Nikon will continue to develop
this series of scanners or are the 5000ED and 9000ED the end of the
line?

I suspect it will be a long time before they upgrade.

Film use is down

Those who shoot film (or who shot film) already have good scanners.

Cheers,
Alan

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Scott W
 
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Default Re: 9000 ED ordered - 12-02-2006 , 10:24 PM



Alan Browne wrote:
Quote:
W wrote:
This seems like an appropriate place to ask (again).
Has anyone heard anything about whether Nikon will continue to develop
this series of scanners or are the 5000ED and 9000ED the end of the
line?


I suspect it will be a long time before they upgrade.

Film use is down

Those who shoot film (or who shot film) already have good scanners.
Some of us are still waiting, it is looking like we might be waiting a
long time.

My Minolta Dual III is not bad but I sure would like ICE and it would
be nice to be able to scan MF as well.

For now I am going to keep waiting but I am begining to think it is
about as good as it is going to get.

Scott



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