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Default Re: Um... RAID controller/drive problem? - 05-01-2007 , 10:32 PM






Folkert Rienstra wrote:
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"fred" <freaks (AT) nowhereville (DOT) net> wrote

Folkert Rienstra wrote:
In comp.sys.ibm.pc.hardware.storage fred <freaks (AT) nowhereville (DOT) net> wrote:
The Card is an Adaptec 39320 RAID controller. The HDD is a 146Gb Seagate Cheetah
(68pin).
The message is something like "39320 B slot 3 SCSI configuration error: 02"

"Something like" usually doesn't cut it when using Google to find answers.

maybe not exactly like that, but that is the gist of it.

A.S.K. database search at Adaptec.com though yielded this results with a little help from
some of Google's more loose search results:

http://adaptec-tic.adaptec.com/cgi-b...?p_faqid=14319
and
http://adaptec-tic.adaptec.com/cgi-b...?p_faqid=11116

Unfortunately, though they appear to address the same error message the answers are quite different.
(Wrong firmware vs wrong bus type is quite a stretch and appear unrelated).

Only thing they have in common is connected peripheral(s), maybe SCSI bus itself.
So it could be that your adaptec doesn't like your drive or your SCSI bus topology.

I've just put the machine back together again with the card in slot 2 instead of
slot 3, and this time I have written the error message -
"39320 B at slot 02, 01:0a:01 - SCSI controller configuration error: 02"


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Default Re: Um... RAID controller/drive problem? - 05-02-2007 , 09:17 AM






"Rita Ä Berkowitz" <ritaberk2O04 @aol.com> wrote

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Folkert Rienstra wrote:

The Card is an Adaptec 39320 RAID controller. The HDD is a 146Gb
Seagate Cheetah (68pin).

NEVER EVER buy or attempt to use any Adaptec SCSI RAID products as
they are garbage. You need a good entry level LSI MegaRAID SCSI
320-2X (532) Controller.

Yep, both the RAID capability and the Ultra320 bus
obviously makes such a lot of sense, for just a single drive.

Wotamoron.

Sure does, especially when he gets six more drives.
Ah, the magic number 6.
You mean 7, don't you girl. Or 8 if you include a hot spare.

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You know you just can't stop at one SCSI drive?
He does need to scrap the old ribbon cable and go SCA.
Corse he does. (clueless)

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LSI MegaRAID controllers are very inexpensive and highly
reliable. Your choice of the Seagate Cheetah is a very smart one.
Use no other drive than Seagate Cheetah. Throw the Adaptec in the
trash and grab an LSI.

I'm not sure what motherboard you are using, but I'll bet it’s an
Intel. Sometimes you can get lucky by swapping the Adaptec
controller in a different PCI-X slot.

Bwahahah.

Shows your lack of actual hands on experience in the real world.

Sadly,
As in: you're a sad excuse of a bullshit artist, girl?

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this cures the problem
Not the SCSI bus related ones, dear.

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98.475% of the time.
Poster must be in that remaining 1.525% then, dear.
What a sad coincidence, eh.

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To cure all of these petty problems you go MegaRAID.
http://64.233.183.104/search?hl=en&q...oogle+Searc h
Results 1 - 10 of about 183,000 for problems+MegaRAID. (0.13 seconds)

Oh dear, dear.

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Now stop playing with yourself and parroting crap you find on the
internet and take a course in building an AMD based gaming computer.
Don't forget the blue LEDs.
Like the one featuring in your shop window prominently, dear?

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Rita


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Default Re: Um... RAID controller/drive problem? - 05-02-2007 , 09:33 AM



"fred" <freaks (AT) nowhereville (DOT) net> wrote

Quote:
Folkert Rienstra wrote:
"fred" <freaks (AT) nowhereville (DOT) net> wrote

Folkert Rienstra wrote:
In comp.sys.ibm.pc.hardware.storage fred <freaks (AT) nowhereville (DOT) net> wrote:
The Card is an Adaptec 39320 RAID controller. The HDD is a 146Gb Seagate Cheetah (68pin).
The message is something like "39320 B slot 3 SCSI configuration error: 02"

"Something like" usually doesn't cut it when using Google to find answers.

maybe not exactly like that, but that is the gist of it.

A.S.K. database search at Adaptec.com though yielded this results with a little help from
some of Google's more loose search results:

http://adaptec-tic.adaptec.com/cgi-b...?p_faqid=14319
and
http://adaptec-tic.adaptec.com/cgi-b...?p_faqid=11116

Unfortunately, though they appear to address the same error message the answers are quite different.
(Wrong firmware vs wrong bus type is quite a stretch and appear unrelated).

Only thing they have in common is connected peripheral(s), maybe SCSI bus itself.
So it could be that your adaptec doesn't like your drive or your SCSI bus topology.

I've just put the machine back together again with the card in slot 2 instead of
slot 3, and this time I have written the error message -
"39320 B at slot 02, 01:0a:01 - SCSI controller configuration error: 02"
Ooh, that was so helpful. That was information we didn't have yet.
Oops, actually we did, from faq id 11116.
You did bother to read that, right?

So then, how about volunteering some new information. Like your SCSI bus topology.
Or do we have to draw that out of you too.

Did you read the SCSI faq and why not.
One thing it says is to volunteer as much information (relevant to scsi) as you can.


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Default Re: Um... RAID controller/drive problem? - 05-02-2007 , 04:53 PM



Folkert Rienstra wrote:
Quote:
"fred" <freaks (AT) nowhereville (DOT) net> wrote

Folkert Rienstra wrote:
"fred" <freaks (AT) nowhereville (DOT) net> wrote

Folkert Rienstra wrote:
In comp.sys.ibm.pc.hardware.storage fred <freaks (AT) nowhereville (DOT) net> wrote:
The Card is an Adaptec 39320 RAID controller. The HDD is a 146Gb Seagate Cheetah (68pin).
The message is something like "39320 B slot 3 SCSI configuration error: 02"
"Something like" usually doesn't cut it when using Google to find answers.

maybe not exactly like that, but that is the gist of it.
A.S.K. database search at Adaptec.com though yielded this results with a little help from
some of Google's more loose search results:

http://adaptec-tic.adaptec.com/cgi-b...?p_faqid=14319
and
http://adaptec-tic.adaptec.com/cgi-b...?p_faqid=11116

Unfortunately, though they appear to address the same error message the answers are quite different.
(Wrong firmware vs wrong bus type is quite a stretch and appear unrelated).

Only thing they have in common is connected peripheral(s), maybe SCSI bus itself.
So it could be that your adaptec doesn't like your drive or your SCSI bus topology.

I've just put the machine back together again with the card in slot 2 instead of
slot 3, and this time I have written the error message -
"39320 B at slot 02, 01:0a:01 - SCSI controller configuration error: 02"

Ooh, that was so helpful. That was information we didn't have yet.
Oops, actually we did, from faq id 11116.
You did bother to read that, right?
If by faq you mean the one at site www.scdifaq.org, then no, I was not aware it
existed until you posted it in this group just recently. However if this is what
you are talking about I still have no idea what you mean as there does not
appear to be any faq id system present and id 11116 certainly doesn't show up
anywhere in the site i.e.
http://www.google.com.au/search?as_q...s=&safe=images

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So then, how about volunteering some new information. Like your SCSI bus topology.
My what?

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One thing it says is to volunteer as much information (relevant to scsi) as you can.
The mother board is http://support.intel.com/support/mot...s/server/STL2/
other than that I have no other information. Everything I know about this SCSI
setup has already been posted in this thread. Oh, and the onboard SCSI
controller has been disabled in the BIOS.


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Default Re: Um... RAID controller/drive problem? - 05-03-2007 , 04:46 PM



Michael Giegerich wrote:
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fred :
Help! I'm not yet familiar with all the ins and outs of SCSI drives, and have
the following problem -

I was wondering if it was possible to run a single SCSI hard disk off a SCSI

Which disk drive? Connected internally or externally?
Seagate Cheetah 146Gb internal

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RAID Host adapter? Because I connected an Ultra320 hard disk to a RAID

Which SCSI controller?
Adaptec 39320 SCSI RAID controller

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controller by itself, and it seems to work for a few weeks without any problem
(except for some message about configuration error 02 on channel B, which I can
just ignore), then one day, the drive just stops working and cannot be checked
Generally error messages should not be ignored.
39320 B at slot 02, 01:0a:01 - SCSI controller configuration error: 02

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or verified with any utilities - it just becomes totally unreadable one day, and

Unaccessible or unreadable? How do you launch the
utilities that should check the drive (floppy,
cdrom, another disk drive)? Which utilities? On
what operating system?

Unreadable. Fsck fails to read every single part of the drive. Has to be
formatted with gparted or BIOS. I'm using linux.

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the whole drive has to get re-formatted. Then it works fine again for a few weeks.

How do you do this, if the drive can not be read
(accessed)? In another system? Via the controllers
BIOS (then the drive can actually be read/accessed)?

I think this recurring problem might have something to do with the fact I'm
trying to run a single drive on a RAID setup.

Please let me know if this setup I am trying is an impossible configuration, or
should I not be experiencing this phenomena with a single drive setup?

If it's just a case of me having created an unsupported configuration, then
adding a second identical drive will fix it, yes?

If you want a qualified answer you should at least
post info on your:

- Motherboard and BIOS,
intel server board STL2 http://support.intel.com/support/mot...s/server/STL2/
Phoenix BIOS 4.0 release 6
STL20.86B.0022.P01.0105011814
STL2 BIOS release 1.8

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- SCSI controller and BIOS/firmware,
as above... with BIOS v4.30.4S5

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- Cable(s)/backplane(s),
- Termination,
3 connector u320 compliant ribbon cable (68 pin) - 1 connector to adapter, 1
unconnected in middle, 1 connect to drive, and 1 terminator (SCSI LVD/SE
Ultra2/Ulta160/Ultra3) on end of cable near drive.

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- SCSI drives attached internally (and externally),
Just the one drive as above.

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- Other devices on the system,
2x 1Ghz Pentium III CPUs
Video card Nvidia GeForce MX4000 64Mb PCI
A CD-ROM and a DVD-ROM connected to the IDE
A 3.5" floppy drive
A 550W power supply

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- System description (I do like dmesg outputs),
Can't at the moment. No system currently installed.

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- Boot drive,
As above.

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- Operating system,
When there is an OS installed - Linux Ubuntu Edgy Eft (whatever the current
version and kernal is at the time.)

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- Detailed problem description (!).

The more detail you give, the better you may
be helped.


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Default Re: Um... RAID controller/drive problem? - 05-03-2007 , 04:58 PM



"Rita Ä Berkowitz" <ritaberk2O04 @aol.com> wrote

Quote:
fred wrote:

The Card is an Adaptec 39320 RAID controller. The HDD is a 146Gb
Seagate Cheetah (68pin).

NEVER EVER buy or attempt to use any Adaptec SCSI RAID products as they are
garbage. You need a good entry level LSI MegaRAID SCSI 320-2X (532)
Controller. LSI MegaRAID controllers are very inexpensive and highly reliable.

Your choice of the Seagate Cheetah is a very smart one. Use no other drive than Seagate Cheetah.
So good in fact that they are the *ONLY* drives causing problems with Adaptec controllers:
http://adaptec-tic.adaptec.com/cgi-b...?p_faqid=10047

like with the ST3146807


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Throw the Adaptec in the trash and grab an LSI.

I'm not sure what motherboard you are using, but I'll bet it’s an Intel.
Sometimes you can get lucky by swapping the Adaptec controller in a
different PCI-X slot. Good luck.

Rita


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Default Re: Um... RAID controller/drive problem? - 05-03-2007 , 05:43 PM



Ah, you're from Australia. That explains the lot.
I'll leave you in the very capable hands of Rita the Troll and the Swiss babbblebot that never sleeps and has one brainfar(c)t after
another.
You deserve them fully.

"fred" <freaks (AT) nowhereville (DOT) net> wrote

Quote:
Folkert Rienstra wrote:
"fred" <freaks (AT) nowhereville (DOT) net> wrote

Folkert Rienstra wrote:
"fred" <freaks (AT) nowhereville (DOT) net> wrote

Folkert Rienstra wrote:
In comp.sys.ibm.pc.hardware.storage fred <freaks (AT) nowhereville (DOT) net> wrote:
The Card is an Adaptec 39320 RAID controller. The HDD is a 146Gb Seagate Cheetah (68pin).
The message is something like "39320 B slot 3 SCSI configuration error: 02"
"Something like" usually doesn't cut it when using Google to find answers.

maybe not exactly like that, but that is the gist of it.
A.S.K. database search at Adaptec.com though yielded this results with a little help from
some of Google's more loose search results:

http://adaptec-tic.adaptec.com/cgi-b...?p_faqid=14319
and
http://adaptec-tic.adaptec.com/cgi-b...?p_faqid=11116

Unfortunately, though they appear to address the same error message the answers are quite different.
(Wrong firmware vs wrong bus type is quite a stretch and appear unrelated).

Only thing they have in common is connected peripheral(s), maybe SCSI bus itself.
So it could be that your adaptec doesn't like your drive or your SCSI bus topology.

I've just put the machine back together again with the card in slot 2 instead of
slot 3, and this time I have written the error message -
"39320 B at slot 02, 01:0a:01 - SCSI controller configuration error: 02"

Ooh, that was so helpful. That was information we didn't have yet.
Oops, actually we did, from faq id 11116.
You did bother to read that, right?
If by faq you mean the one at site www.scdifaq.org, then no, I was not aware it
existed until you posted it in this group just recently. However if this is what
you are talking about I still have no idea what you mean as there does not
appear to be any faq id system present and id 11116 certainly doesn't show up
anywhere in the site i.e.

http://www.google.com.au/search?as_q...s=&safe=images


So then, how about volunteering some new information. Like your SCSI bus topology.
My what?

One thing it says is to volunteer as much information (relevant to scsi) as you can.
The mother board is http://support.intel.com/support/mot...s/server/STL2/
other than that I have no other information. Everything I know about this SCSI
setup has already been posted in this thread. Oh, and the onboard SCSI
controller has been disabled in the BIOS.


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Default Re: Um... RAID controller/drive problem? - 05-03-2007 , 05:45 PM



"Rita Ä Berkowitz" <ritaberk2O04 @aol.com> wrote

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fred wrote:

If by faq you mean the one at site www.scdifaq.org,
Nope, and not only because of that rather obvious typo either.

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then no, I was not aware it existed until
you posted it in this group just recently.
And in previous months for several years now.

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However if this is what you are talking about I still have no idea
what you mean as there does not appear to be any faq id system
present and id 11116 certainly doesn't show up anywhere in the site.
Wota big surprise with that obvious typo.

Right, so you obviously didn't bother to read the A.S.K. FAQ links that I gave you.
One of which was :
http://adaptec-tic.adaptec.com/cgi-b...?p_faqid=11116

Does that number at the end look slightly familiar now?

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Fred, do yourself a favor and take what Folk says with a grain of salt.

If you Google his past posts you'll notice he has a track record of being a
troublemaker and is the official group idiot.
Whereas Rita Bigotowitz is a fully respected member of csiphs.

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The mother board is
http://support.intel.com/support/mot...s/server/STL2/
other than that I have no other information.

Everything I know about this SCSI
Which apparently is *nothing* and obviously you fully intend to keep it that way.

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setup has already been posted in this thread.
Obvious lie.

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Oh, and the onboard SCSI controller has been disabled in the BIOS.
An *Adaptec* dual channel Ultra160 controller, perfectly
suitable for a single Ultra320 drive, or even 4 of them.

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Yes, Intel has a known PCI bridge conflict with this card.
http://www.google.com/search?hl=en&l... &sa=N&tab=gw

No such evidence of that here.

Nor here:
http://adaptec-tic.adaptec.com/cgi-b...wers.search_nl

Nor here:
http://mysearch.intel.com/corporate/...archsubmit.y=4

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This is a *KNOWN* problem
Similar to: Rita is a *KNOWN* troll?

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in the industry.
Which the Rita troll is obviously privy to and everyone else -including Acraptec- is not.

Btw, if it actually knew it's stuff and this bridge problem were actually to be true
then it would have advised you to look at the first number in "01:0a:01" of that
error message, which is the SCSI bus number.
Usually Bus #01 means that it is possibly behind a PCI to PCI bridge.
It can also merely mean that Intel just decided to mark the northbridge connected 64-
bit 66 MHz PCI bus as bus #01 and that there is no PCI to PCI bridge involved at all.
These are standard wide PCI slots, not PCI-X. There is no bridge to seperate them.

*If* it actually knew it's stuff about Intel server boards it would have advised you
to put the SCSI adapter in one of the 32-bit slots since the 2 64-bit slots are on
the same bus so changing between those has no effect.

The 32-bit 33 MHz PCI bus is connected to the Southbridge.
The STL2 manual doesn't show a PCI to PCI bridge involved there.

*IF*, *if* that card actually has a problem -as the troll alleges and for which there
is no evidence- with being on PCI bus #1 then you would be looking for a slot that
changes that first number "01" in 01:0a:01, to double zero.

*IF* there is a problem with that card it's likely not to do with PCI to PCI bridges
at all but with the number 01 (or higher) instead of 00. A simple BIOS upgrade would
fix that.

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My suggestion is scrap the Adaptec and use the onboard SCSI controller.


Rita


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Default Re: Um... RAID controller/drive problem? - 05-04-2007 , 12:52 AM



Rita Ä Berkowitz <ritaberk2O04 @aol.com> wrote
Quote:
Folkert Rienstra wrote

If you Google his past posts you'll notice he has a track record of being a troublemaker and is
the official group idiot.

Whereas Rita Bigotowitz is a fully respected member of csiphs.

Yes I am.
Just another of your pathetic little drug crazed deviate fantasys.

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I was very instrumental in cleaning up this group
Just another of your pathetic little drug crazed deviate fantasys.

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and spanking the trolls.
Just another of your pathetic little drug crazed deviate fantasys.

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It seems you got your corncob lodged in an orifice that is reserved for your head.
Just another of your pathetic little drug crazed deviate fantasys.




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Default Re: Um... RAID controller/drive problem? - 05-04-2007 , 08:47 AM



Rita Ä Berkowitz wrote:

Quote:
Folkert Rienstra wrote:

Whereas Rita Bigotowitz is a fully respected member of csiphs.

Yes I am.
LOL

Idiot.



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